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SMART cars in the US

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snowboardsex.com@gmail.com - 05 Nov 2005 07:16 GMT
I have heard for some time that the SMART car (75mpg) is coming to the
US.  Then last week I heard that a dealer in Portland has started a
waiting list for the cars.

Anybody have any more information???

Bill

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It's not what you think
OM - 06 Nov 2005 22:03 GMT
Some sales centres have one smart fortwo on the display floor. They are
doing the survey to gauge the response to the product and to see if they
ought start selling smart cars in the USA in 2006. Please find out which
sales centre has one in your area and do the survey. Also, please
contact 1 800 FOR MERC and tell them to stop dragging their feet on
smart cars for US market. The smart cars have been engineered to meet US
regulations since they are sold in Canada whose safety and emission
regulations mirror US counterpart with very small difference.

ZAP in Santa Rosa, California had engineered and certified the smart
cars for US market last November and received over $20 million in orders
within a few weeks of announcement. I believe you can find them for sale
in the states that don't have California emission regulations.

http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartcar.asp
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_firstsmartdelivered.asp

I think Mercedes-Benz USA is feeling the heat from the American public
because of exposure and sales by ZAP as well as the surprising success
of MINI cars in the USA and the rising petrol price.

Oliver

snowboardsex.com@gmail.com schrieb:
> I have heard for some time that the SMART car (75mpg) is coming to the
> US.  Then last week I heard that a dealer in Portland has started a
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> http://SnowboardSex.com
> It's not what you think
Dori A Schmetterling - 07 Nov 2005 10:14 GMT
This I find hard to believe.

DAS

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> cars for US market last November and received over $20 million in orders
> within a few weeks of announcement.
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Juergen . - 07 Nov 2005 15:49 GMT
> This I find hard to believe.

Don't 20 million mean circa 2000 - 2500 Smart?
Is that really so unbelieveable?

Juergen
Dori A Schmetterling - 07 Nov 2005 19:07 GMT
Well, put like that it looks more likely.  I should have stopped a bit
longer to think.

Still, 2000+ Smarts from one dealer in the USA?...

DAS
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>> This I find hard to believe.
>
> Don't 20 million mean circa 2000 - 2500 Smart?
> Is that really so unbelieveable?
>
> Juergen
Juergen . - 12 Nov 2005 18:04 GMT
> Well, put like that it looks more likely.  I should have stopped a bit
> longer to think.
> Still, 2000+ Smarts from one dealer in the USA?...

Sorry, due to vacation my answer late (before
I immediately disappear for more vacation)

Hmmm, then we have to investigate a bit:
http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp
states the price at 15k - 25k USD - let's
assume 20.000 per each car ...aeh: mean
_Smart_ ;-) that means 1000 vehicles only,
half of that what I assumed (shame on me,
I should have checked the sales price first).

And then I read on the above mentioned page
_ZAP is beginning to distribute cars through
authorized and technically trained dealers._
and  reading on page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_smartCar.asp
_(May 11, 2004) - ... ZAP ...to be the exclusive
distributor and licensed manufacturer in the United
States for its 60-MPG SMART Car._
I conclude the mentioned $20 million covers the
whole US (45 states, not 5 states with California

And how does that combine with the info from
http://www.usa.smart.com tht they think about
bringing the Smart to the US?
On page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_firstsmartdelivered.asp
they say
_ZAP purchases its vehicles from non-affiliated
direct importer Smart-Automobile LLC._
and
_ZAP is not affiliated with, or authorized by,
smart gmbh, the manufacturer of SMART automobiles,
or the smartUSA division of Mercedes-Benz LLC,
the exclusive authorized U.S. importer and
distributor of those vehicles._

Plus on page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_zapfileslegal.asp
one can read that
_ZAP Files Legal Action Against DaimlerChrysler and
Affiliated Companies_

Juergen
Juergen . - 12 Nov 2005 18:13 GMT
> Well, put like that it looks more likely.  I should have stopped a bit
> longer to think.
> Still, 2000+ Smarts from one dealer in the USA?...

Sorry, due to vacation my answer is late (before
I immediately disappear for more vacation)

http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp
states the price at 15k to 25k USD - let's
assume 20.000 per each car ...aeh: mean
_Smart_ ;-) that means 1000 vehicles only,
half of that what I assumed (shame on me,
I should have checked the sales price first!).

And then I read on the above mentioned page
_ZAP is beginning to distribute cars through
authorized and technically trained dealers._
and reading on page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_smartCar.asp
_(May 11, 2004) - ... ZAP ...to be the exclusive
distributor and licensed manufacturer in the United
States for its 60-MPG SMART Car._
I conclude the mentioned $20 million covers the
whole US (45 states, not the 5 states with
California emissions regulations).
So roughly 1000 cars do not seem tha unlikely
to me for all these 45 states.

But ZAP seems not to be an official importer, see
http://www.usa.smart.com
and on page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_firstsmartdelivered.asp
they say
_ZAP purchases its vehicles from non-affiliated
direct importer Smart-Automobile LLC._
and
_ZAP is not affiliated with, or authorized by,
smart gmbh, the manufacturer of SMART automobiles,
or the smartUSA division of Mercedes-Benz LLC,
the exclusive authorized U.S. importer and
distributor of those vehicles._

Plus on page
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_zapfileslegal.asp
one can read that
_ZAP Files Legal Action Against DaimlerChrysler and
Affiliated Companies_

So I wonder what will happen to ZAP and their
customers and the servicing of the already
delivered Smarts (if any)...

Juergen
Dori A Schmetterling - 14 Nov 2005 13:54 GMT
Another holiday is no excuse.  You are obliged to answer instantly.

BTW, where were you/are you going to?  Driving in your Merc (I have to keep
this relevant)?

DAS

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> Sorry, due to vacation my answer is late (before
> I immediately disappear for more vacation)
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greek_philosophizer - 14 Nov 2005 17:30 GMT
This world would be a better place
if every country has the same social
benefits and long vacations of
certain European countries.

> Another holiday is no excuse.  You are obliged to answer instantly.
>
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> > I immediately disappear for more vacation)
> [...]
Dori A Schmetterling - 14 Nov 2005 23:21 GMT
I thought Jürgen is retired.  He was just saying he took/is taking a trip
away.

DAS

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> This world would be a better place
> if every country has the same social
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>> > I immediately disappear for more vacation)
>> [...]
greek_philosophizer - 15 Nov 2005 15:48 GMT
> I thought Jürgen is retired.  He was just saying he took/is taking a trip
> away.

I could not resist making a comment on social policies.

How do you make the letter u with the two dots over it?

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Dori A Schmetterling - 16 Nov 2005 00:16 GMT
öäÖÄ ß....

Go to Regional and Language settings (in XP) or similar.

Then Languages/Details and set up any language keyboard you like (that's
available).

To visualise the new keys it is easiest to download Microsoft Visual
Keyboard foc.

This allows you to type the characters on a virtual keyboard and shows the
physical keyboard layout.

If you still have difficulty let me know.  You may e-mail me directly.

With German it is not too difficult to memorise the positions as the core
keys are not so different (though its QWERZ).  The A-Umlaut is where the @
sign is, for example.

DAS

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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
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I could not resist making a comment on social policies.

How do you make the letter u with the two dots over it?

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