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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / November 2005

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1991 190e intermitent starting problem

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Buzby - 19 Nov 2005 17:59 GMT
If I could page the font of all knowledge!

I have a 190e 1.8 fuel injection with an odd problem.

It starts mostly first time, every now and then it refuses to start - when
it goes into this mode I can't hear the fuel pump spinning up, although it
will do this on the first attempt. If I leave it for a couple of hours it
usually starts which would indicate possibly the engine is flooding.

I've checked the usual electrical bits and pieces and can't see anything
obvious that may be causing this - anyone got any bright ideas??

TIA

Buzby
T.G. Lambach - 20 Nov 2005 01:06 GMT
What makes you think the engine is "flooded"?
Is it because the car will start if you "floor" the accelerator and hold
it there until it starts?

My E320 had one leaking fuel injector that "flooded" the engine only
when it was hot, but it always started with (a delay and) a stink of
unburned fuel in its exhaust. Cold starting was fine.

Rather, I believe your engine lacks fuel. There's a fuel pump relay
(like a switch) for the electric fuel pump. These relays become
intermitant and poor starting is often the result as well as otherwise
inexplicable stalling while driving.
Tiger - 20 Nov 2005 01:38 GMT
Fuel Pump Relay is my first suspect. Crank sensor is second suspect.
Buzby - 20 Nov 2005 08:57 GMT
> Fuel Pump Relay is my first suspect. Crank sensor is second suspect.

This was my thought as well - I don't appear to have a relay - any ideas as
to location. It's not in the fuse box and I can't find any mention of it in
the Haynes manual - and there's nothing obvious that I can find anywhere!
Cheers

Buzby
Jens - 20 Nov 2005 12:46 GMT
Fuel pump relay is behind the plastic shield behind the battery.

It runs one second just af turning on ignition. It will run again, when
cranking the engine or when reaching normal RPM.
Buzby - 21 Nov 2005 13:11 GMT
> Fuel pump relay is behind the plastic shield behind the battery.
>
> It runs one second just af turning on ignition. It will run again, when
> cranking the engine or when reaching normal RPM.

Thanks Jens - I'd have never found it otherwise! Hopefully German & Swedish
will have one in stock - otherwise double the price for a 'Merc' one
 
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