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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2005

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1988 190E power loss

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bsblack.mail@gmail.com - 11 Dec 2005 01:50 GMT
I have a Mercedes that is having an intermittent power loss problem.
The problem is usually worse when traveling at slow speeds, and when
pressing softly on the accelerator pedal.  The power usually comes back
if you press down far enough on the pedal, especially when you hit the
kickdown switch.  I have recently replaced the Air filter, spark plugs,
distributor cap, rotor, fuel pump relay, fuel pump, and fuel pressure
regulator.  When the power fails the car bogs down heavily and feels
like it is about to die, yet never has died.  The idle is also rough
while the symptoms are present.  If anyone has any advice please let me
know.
T.G. Lambach - 11 Dec 2005 05:13 GMT
Such problems are usually "found" by a process of elimination rather
than an affirmative diagnosis.

Given that you've replaced many of the "usual suspects" I'd suspect the
"over voltage protection relay". It has a fuse on its top.

The symptoms and the car's age suggest this device BUT it's usually
implicated in hard starting and poor warm up then (snap) the motor runs
perfectly.

Suggest you find its location and tap it the next time the motor bogs
down - it may just respond!
Josh - 11 Dec 2005 13:05 GMT
You might also want to check your oxygen sensor.  I had some rough running
conditions even though the O2 sensor checked out fine.  But it seems that
these can be within range but send the wrong signal and thereby cause your
engine to run either too rich or too lean.  This can be especially true if
you notice that the engine runs fine when cold (during about the first three
minutes) as the oxygen sensor doesn't activate until it is warm.  You might
be able to simply disconnect to oxygen sensor and see if that improves the
situation.

Josh
bsblack.mail@gmail.com - 11 Dec 2005 18:11 GMT
The car starts up fine and the problems are very intermittent.  Some
days it will run fine without acting up at all. It does seem to run
better whent it has first been started.  I'll have to try unhooking the
O2 sensor and see if that helps.
George Mann - 12 Dec 2005 00:25 GMT
bsblack.mail@gmail.com wrote in news:1134324662.392803.180570
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> The car starts up fine and the problems are very intermittent.  Some
> days it will run fine without acting up at all. It does seem to run
> better whent it has first been started.  I'll have to try unhooking the
> O2 sensor and see if that helps.

If your sensor is bad, there will be no change in the way it runs when you
disconnect it.
bsblack.mail@gmail.com - 13 Dec 2005 20:40 GMT
I was just out driving again and noticed that when the power loss comes
on, the RPMs don't shoot down drasticaly.  The RPMs drop like when you
let your foot off the accelerator all together.  I just replaced the
spark plug wires today.  The engine is running smoother but the problem
is still there.  When the problem comes on the car doesn't shake, so i
expect that whatever is happening is happening to all four cylinders.
Is it possible that the tranmission could be sticking in overdrive?  I
was thinking that it might be a possibility, yet the problem does occur
going 65 MPH on the freeway.
Tiger - 13 Dec 2005 23:16 GMT
What kind of spark plug did you use? Standard Bosh super plug is the best.
bsblack.mail@gmail.com - 21 Dec 2005 22:11 GMT
I've given up on the car and will be selling it.  If you are
interested, send me an e-mail.  The odometer is broken at 158700 miles
the engine runs fine except for the problem described here.  Sunroof
needs work, just fixed the drivers side window and the exhaust.  For
any more information send me an e-mail  Has one small dent on the back
of the trunk.
Martin Joseph - 22 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT
> I've given up on the car and will be selling it.  If you are
> interested, send me an e-mail.  The odometer is broken at 158700 miles
> the engine runs fine except for the problem described here.  Sunroof
> needs work, just fixed the drivers side window and the exhaust.  For
> any more information send me an e-mail  Has one small dent on the back
> of the trunk.

Where is the vehicle located, and how much do you want for it?

Marty
Wheeler . Dealer - 31 Dec 2005 15:03 GMT
Same.
Location? Price?
Have you checked the fuel pressure at the rail ?
Cold be a pump or pressure regulator going bad.

$.02
WD

> > I've given up on the car and will be selling it.  If you are
> > interested, send me an e-mail.  The odometer is broken at 158700 miles
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>
> Marty
 
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