Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2006

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Help, rain inside 123 sedan

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Diesel Dude - 03 Feb 2006 23:53 GMT
I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
When it rains hard, I find the passenger side floor pan gets soaked.
I've searched for the for usual suspects and have replaced the door
seals, windshield and windshield gasket.  I have looked for draining
problems under the hood and around windshield wiper motor area and even
took out the battery tray to look for corrosion holes.  There is no
sunroof on this car.  I suspect the water is coming in near the
firewall on the passengers side but I don't see where.  I also took
apart the trunk to see if it could be coming in from the rear of the
car but nada.  A light rain will not leak in but snow melting on the
roof or heavy downpours run right in.  It's a real headache especially
living in the pacific northwest.
taxman - 04 Feb 2006 03:21 GMT
check for perforated metal on each side of the firewall where the cables run
in and out of, also make sure that the rubber grommets aren't falling apart.

there are also rubber grommets in the transmission tunnel, for draining the
condensate from the ac and other things.

there's also a possibility of water entering in the chassis rails from the
front wheel arches and leaking in thru rust holes in the inner sill.

|I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
| that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
| roof or heavy downpours run right in.  It's a real headache especially
| living in the pacific northwest.
Richard Sexton - 04 Feb 2006 06:23 GMT
>I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
>that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>roof or heavy downpours run right in.  It's a real headache especially
>living in the pacific northwest.

Got any water in yout taillights? I've heard of one case where it
came in through the gasket around the taillight assembly. I don't
remember the details but the guy replaced the taillight gasket
and that fixed his.

These leaks aren't uncommon. Google aorund a bit and you should
fnd a few more causes.

Signature

        Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org 
Richard Sexton       | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net

David J - 04 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT
>>I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
>>that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>These leaks aren't uncommon. Google aorund a bit and you should
>fnd a few more causes.

You gotta be a sleuth here...

Does water ever enter the car when it is stationary?  If so you can
forget the wheel arch situation.  You may have to remove some interior
trim & carpets.

Have a colleague stand outside with a hose pouring on the roof, with
you inside looking for the water route.  Maybe lie on your back with a
torch peeking up under the dash panel.

Most likely it's around the windshield - those seals can deteriorate
without it being obvious.

good luck...  
trader4@optonline.net - 06 Feb 2006 12:05 GMT
> >>I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
> >>that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> good luck...

That's what I finally did to track down leaks on my 300SD that were
driving me nuts.  Even with a hose, it can be difficult.   I could
spray the whole windshield area, heater air intake by the wipers,
corner pillar, door, roof, everything and no water would show up
inside.   Yet in even a light rain, in an hour water would be in the
heater blower and on the passenger floor.

I finally tried letting the water gently roll down the windshield,
instead of spraying it on.  Then water made it's way inside.  I had to
remove the blower to see where it was coming from.   With a mirror, I
could see it.  Turns out it was one of the holes for the plastic plugs
that hold in place the front edge of the chrome air intake grill around
the wipers.  The plastic plug was missing.   The water came through
that hole, then adhered to the underside of the body, traveling about 4
inchs across, then finally breaking lose and dropping down.

I also found a leak in the trunk from around the rear window seal and
even worse, from around the gas door lock.  The dummies at MB designed
the door lock with a vacuum actuated pin that goes in straight
horizontal, requiring a rubber seal to keep the water out.  If they had
just angled it downwars, water could never get in.

Good news is she's dry now!

You need a helper and may have to try for quite awhile to find it.  Try
to work one area thouroughly at a time.   Otherwise, even if it shows
up, without tearing everything apart inside, you won't know which area
it came from.
Roland Franzius - 06 Feb 2006 16:29 GMT
Diesel Dude schrieb:
> I am just about to go bonkers looking for this leak.  I have a '77 300D
> that just started leaking this year (I've had it for eight years).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> roof or heavy downpours run right in.  It's a real headache especially
> living in the pacific northwest.

Two common suspects for water at a car in rest (without sunroof) is air
intake assembly and the edgy part between door and hood. With your
garden watering hose it should be not so difficult to find out.

Signature

Roland Franzius

Diesel Dude - 06 Feb 2006 18:44 GMT
Thanks for the tips.  I've done the garden hose soak but will try
again.  I hope not to have to remove the heater as that job looks
really hairy.  In the meantime, I 've drilled out the floor pan to help
save the carpets.  It's always something on these cars.  I'll keep
looking.
Cheers

<off topic> Seattle Seahawks were cheated!
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.