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anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on 1994 220E petrol 124? Why? Broken it? DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on > 1994 220E petrol 124? Why? You want to wear it around your neck? > anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on > 1994 220E petrol 124? SEC transformation? > SEC transformation? Are you wanting to get trophy Merc stars from fellow merc driver as was a gimmick some years age in UK may still happen someone broke mine but I have not yet fixed BUT Haynes Manual says From the underside of the bonnet, pull the spring down using heavy duty pliers, against considerable spring tension, and turn 90degs to the left Make sure the spring clip enters the grooves of the rosette pull the star upwards from the grill surround to remove > anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on > 1994 220E petrol 124? it cant be that hard... the kids that keep stealing mine never seem to have much trouble... jk >> anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on >> 1994 220E petrol 124? >> >it cant be that hard... the kids that keep stealing mine never seem to >have much trouble... jk I have lost four of them and no longer wear one. >>>anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on >>>1994 220E petrol 124? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I have lost four of them and no longer wear one. Do They break them off as mine or fully remove them?? I actually heard of one guy who wired his hood ornament to an electrical source. I can't swear if it's true or what the liability would be, but it was a funny story. I think the fad has died down somewhat here in the US now, though. >>>>anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on >>>>1994 220E petrol 124? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Do They break them off as mine or fully remove them?? >>>>anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on >>>>1994 220E petrol 124? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >Do They break them off as mine or fully remove them?? Fully remove. I have a feeling one person is responsible since all of them disappeared in the same block of the same Manhattan street. Two of mine were fully removed, one was snapped off. Cop friend said the little buggers twist and twist to wind the spring tighter, eventually it causes the mount to twist under the hood and the whole thing pops out. No need to open the hood. The temptation to hook mine up to a generously sized capacitor was REALLY strong. I didn't, but it would have been so satisfying...We foiled most of this kind of theft by bending the ears of the mount after installing it. Rochelle >Two of mine were fully removed, one was snapped off. Cop friend said >the little buggers twist and twist to wind the spring tighter, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >would have been so satisfying...We foiled most of this kind of theft by >bending the ears of the mount after installing it. I do miss having that "gunsight" out there on the hood though. I may spring for another one. rhess3@mindspring.com writes: > Two of mine were fully removed, one was snapped off. Cop friend > said the little buggers twist and twist to wind the spring tighter, > eventually it causes the mount to twist under the hood and the whole > thing pops out. What do these little mutants *do* with 'em once they've got them, though? Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, it's all the rage to pry off the stylized "H" badges from the trunk lids of Hondas. I see a lot of Hondas with a pair of holes where the badge used to be. I never see anyone walking around with one on a chain around his neck, and aside from using them for a primitive form of jewelry, I don't know what else anyone would do with these. Geoff  Signature"Take my archetypes...please!" -- Henny Jungman > rhess3@mindspring.com writes: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Geoff YEARS ago in Alabama, these thieves (also pried the Buick emblem off the hubcabs) and reportedly made belt buckles from them. I never did see a belt buckle or anything else using these stolen vehicle parts. Perhaps it's a type of initiation rite for a "club"? Who can collect the most? >> rhess3@mindspring.com writes: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Perhaps it's a type of initiation > rite for a "club"? Who can collect the most? Ouch, I lost a set of buick wheel hubs myself off a 1968 GS. Damn little chislers! >>> rhess3@mindspring.com writes: >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> What do these little mutants *do* with 'em once they've got them, >>> though? The days of the star mascot are numbered due to european pedestrian safety regualtions. Car bonnets are getting lower at the front too in Europe for the same reason. They will be fiting sprung matresses to the front of cars soon. My feeling is that the next S class will be the last Mercedes with a star mascot. The C class coupe doesn't even have one now and you can swap the star for one of those badges as they are the same size. I am considering doing this myself due to the aggrevation of people interfering with it. > The days of the star mascot are numbered due to european pedestrian > safety regualtions. Why? The Mercedes hood ornament is both rounded and spring-loaded. Unlike, say, the spiky and rigidly-mounted ones on 1960s Lincolns, they're no hazard to pedestrians. In fact, as far as I know, all stand-up hood ornaments have been spring-loaded for safety since the Seventies, and probably shaped with safety in mind as well. (I'm thinking of the ones on 1970s Mercurys and Buicks, for example.) > I am considering doing this myself due to the aggrevation of > people interfering with it. I've never had that problem, which kinda surprises me. The only related annoyance I've had is car wash workers neglecting to straighten the thing out after it's been knocked over by the brushes. Geoff Signature"My advice to her [Britney Spears] would be to start shooting the dog porn videos now, and thus set aside a little cash for her retirement." -- Speedbump >> The days of the star mascot are numbered due to european pedestrian >> safety regualtions. > > Why? The Mercedes hood ornament is both rounded and spring-loaded. I am in the UK and the European regulations are getting tighter and tighter. Bonnets are getting lower and lower in an attempt to reduce injury. The driving force is not regualtion but the ability to get a good safety rating. In fact I am pretty sure the mascot would not be permitted on a one off custom vehicle because it has edges with a radius of less than 2mm. I could be wrong of course, but even though it is spring loaded its bount to increase the risk of injury. Also as designs advance there are less obvious places to put them. They used to be on top of the radiator grille but now the grilles don;t have a top the mascot is actually on the bonnet. I ordered an SLK 350 this week and there would be no logical place on that bonnet to put a mascot. 1) Nice motor. Enjoy! 2) If Merc wanted to retain the upright star on 'sporty' models they would find a way. DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] I ordered an SLK 350 this week and there would be no logical place on that > bonnet to put a mascot. > 1) Nice motor. Enjoy! > > 2) If Merc wanted to retain the upright star on 'sporty' models they > would find a way. Yes, I suppsoe the could. Maybe make a smaller one. My two motoring memories as a child in the early 70's are: 1. Passing a big yellow Mercedes every sunday on the way to church. It had enamelled hub caps and the big grille with the star on it. 2. Pressing my nose against the glass oft he local Rolls Royce/Bentley dealer who had a showroom right in the middle of town like a shop front. To this day I still fancy a Bentley. An 80's Brooklands would be nice. Maybe one day. I am waiting on the SLK coming. I ordered one with all the add ons apart from the satnav. I like gadgets and I think I could have some fun with the roof operation from the key, spooking people by making it go up and down from my office window. Old Bentleys are much cheaper than new SLKs. So why are buying an SLK???? Maybe the running costs put you off? DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > 2. Pressing my nose against the glass oft he local Rolls Royce/Bentley > dealer who had a showroom right in the middle of town like a shop front. > To this day I still fancy a Bentley. An 80's Brooklands would be nice. > Maybe one day. [...] > Old Bentleys are much cheaper than new SLKs. So why are buying an SLK???? > > Maybe the running costs put you off? No, kids running keys down the side of the car. Running an old style Bentley here means you are either a celebrity golfer or a bookmaker! Actually a local dealer had a fantastic one for a quarter of the price of the new SLK. Over here there are lots of old Rollers and Bentleys, usually ex wedding chauffeur cars. It would just be too embarassing to drive one and they don;t fit in British size parking spaces. One of the best things about visiting the USA is being able to park the car in a car park and open the doors to get out. Over here its open the door a fraction and try and squeeze out. This is why so many cars have dents up the sides from other people's doors hitting them. I have another Mercedes already: http://www.hudson.nu/mercedes/ European style of course with the smaller supercharged engine and the lowered suspension. Very nice. DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > I have another Mercedes already: > http://www.hudson.nu/mercedes/ > European style of course with the smaller supercharged engine and the > lowered suspension. >> Old Bentleys are much cheaper than new SLKs. So why are buying an SLK???? >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > European style of course with the smaller supercharged engine and the > lowered suspension. Thanks for the neat screen saver series of photos. ;-) >>> Old Bentleys are much cheaper than new SLKs. So why are buying an >>> SLK???? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > Thanks for the neat screen saver series of photos. ;-) I don't mind.... > I have another Mercedes already: > http://www.hudson.nu/mercedes/ > European style of course with the smaller supercharged engine > and the lowered suspension. Gorgeous car -- but why did you blur out the licen[c,s]e plate in the photos? I see more and more of this, both on TV and in the photos that people provide links to on Usenet. Since number plates are on public display by their very nature, I can't say that I see the point. Geoff Signature"There is one evil which...should never be passed over in silence but be continually publicly attacked, and that is corruption of the language..." -- W.H. Auden > Old Bentleys are much cheaper than new SLKs. So why are buying an SLK???? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> To this day I still fancy a Bentley. An 80's Brooklands would be nice. >> Maybe one day. I always wanted a Rolls, back when Bently was owned by Rolls, but the fact that they only got around 9 mpg made that a no-go. Might look at an older one now, though..... As for Bently....another classic. God, I love my toy cars.... >> The days of the star mascot are numbered due to european pedestrian >> safety regualtions. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Geoff Remember the 30's and hood ornaments? Greyhounds, the pointed Ford V8, and many other such items of those days. James O'Riley <James@O'Riley.com> wites: > Remember the 30's and hood ornaments? Greyhounds, the pointed > Ford V8, and many other such items of those days. Swans, sailing ships, archers, and all kinds of wonderful things. One make used a charging human figure holding a disc of some sort -- a hub cap, I always assumed it was. A friend was riding in my 300D one time and commented that stand-up hood ornaments were a "bizarre" way to express brand identity, which I thought only served to show how little he knew about automotive history. Geoff Signature"There is one evil which...should never be passed over in silence but be continually publicly attacked, and that is corruption of the language..." -- W.H. Auden >>>> rhess3@mindspring.com writes: >>>> >>>>> Two of mine were fully removed, one was snapped off. Cop friend >>>>> said the little buggers twist and twist to wind the spring tighter, >>>>> eventually it causes the mount to twist under the hood and the whole >>>>> thing pops out. I think it is the design flaw on Mercedes-Benz part. They could have fitted the clip that prevent this method without opening the bonnet first to remove the clip. >>>> What do these little mutants *do* with 'em once they've got them, >>>> though? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reason. > They will be fitting sprung mattresses to the front of cars soon. No, the bonnets are raised higher to give more clearance between the bonnet and hard points inside the engine bay. You are probably referring to the high bonnet on the SUV: we haven't seen the design change for the SUV yet other than the new generation of SUV (i.e. Mercedes-Benz GL-Class, Toyota RAV4, etc.). EU regulations calls for more absorption of energy and less injury. That is the interim measure until the technology provides the way of triggering airbags (or should I say air mattress) or raising the bonnet a few inches upward upon the impact. That latter one is becoming popular choice as to preserve the car design. Notice the design evolution of Rolls-Royce grille from Phantom to EX-100 coupé/cabriolet? The new grille is more swept back and does look better than the upright 'Greek temple'. Aside from shortening and widening the grille over the years, that is the first major design change in its history. > My feeling is that the next S class will be the last Mercedes with a star > mascot. > The C class coupe doesn't even have one now and you can swap the star for > one of those badges as they are the same size. No, the three-point star ornament will stay with us as long as new regulations don't call for elimination of them. The three-point star ornament has become thinner and thinner as well as smaller over the years. The base of ornament is sphere-shaped which allowed them to lay flat in unfortunate event of encountering a pedestrian. I had one from 1960s which was big and heavy along with the base that resemble the radiator cap. That one was very stiff, harder to flex, and look more painful if struck by it. The ornament will continue to adorn the saloons and estates. The big three-point star in the grille is reserved for the coupé and SUV. I am not particular about that big ones, especially on CLK or any four-seat coupé. The first generation CLK looked really good with radiator grille and bonnet ornament that I was disappointed to see the Cheshire Cat's smile on the current generation CLK. Hmm, CLK and C55/C63 share the same front clip so I suppose I can just swap the parts... > I am considering doing this myself due to the aggravation of people interfering with it. [pedestrian safety] > EU regulations calls for more absorption of energy and less injury. That's a very leftist/Eurosocialist/car-hostile approach. In America, we simply teach people as children to look both ways before crossing the street. Geoff Signature"There is one evil which...should never be passed over in silence but be continually publicly attacked, and that is corruption of the language..." -- W.H. Auden > [pedestrian safety] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Geoff And God knows, we never have any pedestrians hit by cars in the US! : That's a very leftist/Eurosocialist/car-hostile approach. In America, : we simply teach people as children to look both ways before crossing : the street. > And God knows, we never have any pedestrians hit by cars in the US! That isn't the point. A societal expectation that people will take responsibility for their own safety instead of scapegoating automobiles is the point. Geoff Signature"Liberace was a great piano player, but he sucked on the organ." -- Mike Oxbig >>> rhess3@mindspring.com writes: >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Ouch, I lost a set of buick wheel hubs myself off a 1968 GS. Damn > little chislers! In the late 40's they would rip off the ring around the "bullet" on the '46 Buicks. The chrome ring was used by girls as a bracelet. Fender skirts were also easy prey. I knew someone that brazed some razor blades on the release lever...he returned to find his car was totally vandalized. Fun and games in Los Angeles...NOT! :-( That's what you get for living in NYC. Move to Conn.! : ) Collin KC8TKA '97 E320 Easy, place plier jaws over top portion of star. Pull up very hard, then pull down over front of hood. Repete untill you get the desired result. should that fail use a sledge hammer to knock it off the bonnet with violent force. No need to thank me. Good Luck. > anyone know how to remove the bonnet star on > 1994 220E petrol 124? |
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