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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2006

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1972 280SE 4.5L Wanderer

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caviterruptor - 21 Feb 2006 08:44 GMT
The subject car has 140k miles, was leak free, & rode on rails until a
couple weeks back.

She developed a power steering fluid leak, I believe from the steering
box, & began to wander.

I noticed a vertical 19mm bolt located next to a mini shock absorber
(damper?) on the driver side was loose & had backed off about 0.5 in.
I tightened it, which seemed to help, but didn't completely stop the
wandering.

What feels like some sort of axial play up the steering column is
evident over bumps (again, on the driver side).

Has anyone out there felt my pain?

Regards,

C
Richard Sexton - 21 Feb 2006 13:10 GMT
>The subject car has 140k miles, was leak free, & rode on rails until a
>couple weeks back.
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>
>Has anyone out there felt my pain?

Uh yeah, all 108/109 ownerd who haven't had the frot end rebuilt
and the kingpns rebushed. Take it apart have a machine shop rebush
it, replace all the rubber and it'll ride like new, MUCH better than
you're used to.

You'll do this at some point, no point in dicking around fixing onsey
twosey things. Just keep telling yourself "this is a $10,000 car even
though it's 35 years old". Cause they are these days.

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caviterruptor - 27 Feb 2006 00:32 GMT
King Richard scores again!  I got the coulmn couple w/ good bushing
from the wrecker (for free) & stuffed it in.  Good as new.  I'll look
into getting all new front end rubber.

In the mean time, I've begun replacement of the B2 tranny band piston
on my '82 300CD per the link

http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/b2/repair/

Has anyone out there done this?  Can anyone expound on Step 6?  I can
push in the piston cover, & I believe this proverbial circlip has about
3/4" between ends, but what to do with them?  Expand/compression with
limited mobility/space seems unlikely here & could even prove difficult
on a bench.

Am I missing something, or is this article describing a pipe dream?

C
Richard Sexton - 27 Feb 2006 16:23 GMT
>King Richard scores again!  I got the coulmn couple w/ good bushing
>from the wrecker (for free) & stuffed it in.  Good as new.  I'll look
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>
> Am I missing something, or is this article describing a pipe dream?

What you're missing is persistance :-) That's my car in the photos.

Yeah, it's a right bugger, but not impossible.

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caviterruptor - 27 Feb 2006 17:44 GMT
Richard,

Do you recommend needle nose plyers on that circlip?

C
Richard Sexton - 27 Feb 2006 18:18 GMT
>Richard,
>
>Do you recommend needle nose plyers on that circlip?

If you're not using proper circlip pliers no wonder you're
haveing trouble! Pops off in a few secods using them.

You could spend all day with needle nose pliers, probbaly
inventing new swear words along the way.

Keep in mind it's best to swear in German when workig on these cars.

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caviterruptor - 27 Feb 2006 19:45 GMT
I've got circlip pliers, but see no holes in the circlip.
Richard Sexton - 28 Feb 2006 22:03 GMT
>I've got circlip pliers, but see no holes in the circlip.

Push the cover in then use a pick; it's in a grove.

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Martin Joseph - 23 Feb 2006 05:59 GMT
> The subject car has 140k miles, was leak free, & rode on rails until a
> couple weeks back.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Has anyone out there felt my pain?

Sounds like the steering damper discharged it's oil and you over
tightened it to compensate for the lack of shockiness...

New steering damper?
 
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