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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / March 2006

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190E 2.6 Head gasket Repair

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r parris - 02 Mar 2006 02:35 GMT
After 3 years of leaking oil, I am ready to commit to:  Head gasket
repair kit, Valve guides, and valve seals, plus new timing chain
replacement while the head is off.    Questions: Wouldn't I be better
off buying a rebuilt head,  which automatically gives me a "head gasket
repair kit"           (head, exhaust, and intake gaskets) then   add
timing chain renew?    Engine 1992 has 141,000 miles  runs good, not
great, some power loss ,   Also would there be any benefit to polishing
intake ports, or any other horse power tricks that could employed a this
point?   (replacing all vacuum and emission hoses will be
mandatory.......thanks  .......Rick
Richard Sexton - 02 Mar 2006 03:04 GMT
>After 3 years of leaking oil, I am ready to commit to:  Head gasket
>repair kit, Valve guides, and valve seals, plus new timing chain
>replacement while the head is off.    Questions: Wouldn't I be better
>off buying a rebuilt head,  which automatically gives me a "head gasket
>repair kit"           (head, exhaust, and intake gaskets) then   add

I think so, if the price is right.

>timing chain renew?    Engine 1992 has 141,000 miles  runs good, not
>great, some power loss ,   Also would there be any benefit to polishing
>intake ports, or any other horse power tricks that could employed a this

No. This is not an underengineered Chevy 302.

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T.G. Lambach - 02 Mar 2006 04:41 GMT
http://www.mercedesengines.net/categories.asp?cat=17

http://www.mercedesengines.net/categories.asp?cat=18

How's the rest of the car?

Worth the extra $$?
r parris - 03 Mar 2006 01:39 GMT
The car is in about 70% of new condition   good paint, euro-headlights.
I was looking around on the 190 revolution site and was struck by the
fact that very little has been done, or even suggested on how to up
grade this car as compared with say BMW 318s and 325s.   like direct
swap   300 and 400e calipers  or after market exhaust systems better
than stock, struts and springs included.     (I was told very few get
their own head back anyway)  and it might be the cheapest way to get
head reconditioned, timing chain, and new head gaskets.....about 1500.oo
??
T.G. Lambach - 03 Mar 2006 04:58 GMT
This model would be an upgrade candidate in Europe but not the USA where
it's more of a price slot model. In Europe it's the "right size" and its
engine can be tuned.

Can't advise you about the economics of the head rework - collect some
prices and decide.
r parris - 03 Mar 2006 21:14 GMT
Do you have more information on how this engine can be tuned?
Acceleration is good but lacks that new car pep, after tune up, as if
slightly out off time, or not breathing fully. Vacuum is, (or was) 18
and steady.  Compression check was I think was 160s psi and even.    I
didn't do a leak down (year 2000 numbers time for a re-test)
T.G. Lambach - 03 Mar 2006 23:15 GMT
Let's look at engine outputs over the years:

A 300E 12 valve produces 177 HP or 59 HP/L.
A E320 24 valve straight six makes 217 HP or 67.8 HP/L (7% gain from
size increase plus 15% from 24 valves vs. 12 valves)

The newest M-B engines are better

3.5L 24 valve V-6 268 HP or 76.6 HP/L
5.5L 32 valve V-8 388 HP or 70.5 HP/L.

A 2.6L straight six is in the realm of the 300E engine and should make
about 150 HP, probably a bit less as it has to drive all the same parts,
alternator, waterpump etc. with a smaller displacement. A "small block"
Chevy 350 is a 5.7L engine - larger than the newest M-B 5.5L V-8. Temper
your expectations from a 2.6L six. Keep it in good condition and tune
and it will do its best for you. Use premium fuel and remember your
car's relatively good fuel economy rather than its non-V-8 performance.
 
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