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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / March 2006

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Battery Problems E320 1999

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multispacer - 07 Mar 2006 17:40 GMT
I have a E320 petrol mercedes and just recently the car will not start
without a jump even after driving 100 klms the next day it sometimes needs
a jump then sometimes i can use it for short trips 1klm 2klm and its
fine... there is no warning light coming on about the battery being flat i
did have a new tow bar fitted and was wondering if it has been wired up
wrong and draining the battery over night... any help would be
appreciated
Regards
Steve
trader4@optonline.net - 07 Mar 2006 19:31 GMT
> I have a E320 petrol mercedes and just recently the car will not start
> without a jump even after driving 100 klms the next day it sometimes needs
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> Regards
> Steve

One important piece of missing info.  How old is the battery?  If it's
5+ years old, I'd just replace it as a first step.   Do you have a
charger?   If so, did you try charging the battery and see if it holds
a charge that way?  If so, then something is wrong with the charging
system in the car.   Did you check that cables are tight, no corrosion,
etc?  If you're worried about a drain, you can disconnect the battery
lead and measure the drain with no load.  Or if you don't have the
tools/skill, take it in.   There are auto parts places here in the US
that will do a battery load test for free.
multispacer - 07 Mar 2006 20:54 GMT
Thanks for the information I dont know how old the battery is but i assume
its as old as the car... I read the manual and it said i had to disconect
stuff before i could charge it so i didnt as i thought it may affect the
electronics... please bear in mind im a plasterer and car stuff is beyond
me... all the leads are clean and tight (no rust etc) I will do as you
suggest and take it to a garage to test the battery for a possible drain
when i get back to th UK in 5 weeks time... but in the mean time would it
be possible for me to just connect a charger whilst the battery is in the
car
Regards
Steve
T.G. Lambach - 07 Mar 2006 23:19 GMT
Batteries older than four years are suspect.
dbmethods - 07 Mar 2006 13:49 GMT
> Batteries older than four years are suspect.

I have 98 E320, the battery works great.
My car has a 700 Crank Amp MB battery.
Is it okay to use 650 crank Amp or something lower?
Richard Sexton - 08 Mar 2006 13:10 GMT
>> Batteries older than four years are suspect.
>
>I have 98 E320, the battery works great.
>My car has a 700 Crank Amp MB battery.
>Is it okay to use 650 crank Amp or something lower?

It'll work, but not well. I'd go higher, but never lower.

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Guenter Scholz - 08 Mar 2006 13:57 GMT
Of course it's OK, why would you even worry about it..... unless that is you
are located in arctic areas where it get's very cold and/or your car has
extreme difficulty in starting so that you need lots of reserve cranking
ability...... but then you should get it fixed.

cheers, guenter

>> Batteries older than four years are suspect.
>
>I have 98 E320, the battery works great.
>My car has a 700 Crank Amp MB battery.
>Is it okay to use 650 crank Amp or something lower?
raymond- - 10 Mar 2006 06:50 GMT
- have specific gravity checked
- top off with distilled water and trickle charge at 5-10 amps for
several hours
- check specific gravity in each cell to see if any cells are dead

- car charging via driving is almost never successful if the dead
battery was well discharged. car charging systems in modern cars were
never designed to pull a deep discharged battery back into full charge.
they can only surface charge a battery, no matter how long the car is
driven

- if ill maintained, sulfation can short out the plates and cells.
nothing can be done but to purchase a new battery
trader4@optonline.net - 10 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT
> - have specific gravity checked
>  - top off with distilled water and trickle charge at 5-10 amps for
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>  they can only surface charge a battery, no matter how long the car is
> driven

Auto alternators AFAIK, are rated at upwards of 60A, so why are they
not capable of fully recharging a battery, provided the car is driven
far enough and assuming the battery is good?  Also, I think at 5-10
amps, your definition of trickle charging is way off.  That is the
charge rate of a regular charger.  A trickle charger is more on the
order of 1 amp.

 - if ill maintained, sulfation can short out the plates and cells.
> nothing can be done but to purchase a new battery
 
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