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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / April 2006

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560 SL Air Cond not coming on every time.

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John 560SL - 13 Apr 2006 16:53 GMT
Once in a while my A/C does not come on when I start the car.  (three
times so far)  Twice it eventually came on, but once I had to shut the
car off and restart, then it came on immediately.  Turning the system
off at the dash and then back on does not make it kick in.  I think the
system is a little low on refrigerant because the sight glass is milky.
(But it does blow cold if it is not too hot outside.)  I am having the
refrigerant checked/filled up today.  The question is, can low
refrigerant cause the whole system to refuse to come on?  Blower fan
too?  Seems like the fan should run regardless.  But maybe there is a
sensor that prevents the system from coming on under certain
conditions?  Like high outside temperature?  It was about 92 yesterday
here in Phoenix.  '89 560SL
Tiger - 13 Apr 2006 18:08 GMT
If you are talking about not having any fan control... it would be the
ignition switch that needs to be replaced... you can try one thing... with
enging running... turn back the key just a bit more without shutting engine
off... usually the spring is bad and the switch won't return to 'on'
position.

Check fuse... and check freon level.
Neil A. Miller - 13 Apr 2006 19:02 GMT
Hi

My 560SEL I thought had a low refridgerent pressure switch that stops the
compressor running and damaging itself if there is no 'juice' in the system.

Cheers

Neil

1998 C240T
1998 SL500
1950 Land Rover

> If you are talking about not having any fan control... it would be the
> ignition switch that needs to be replaced... you can try one thing... with
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>
> Check fuse... and check freon level.
John 560SL - 14 Apr 2006 15:31 GMT
Thanks for the input.  Had 12 oz of R12 put in yesterday.  $75 whew!
Worked fine this morning, but it is not hot yet today so I will have to
wait to see if that is a factor.  I also read that there is a sensor
that measures engine tempurature that can give a false reading of
excessive engine temp. and shut off the air.  Keeping fingers crossed
in Phx.  Summer is coming fast.
Guenter Scholz - 14 Apr 2006 19:14 GMT
>If you are talking about not having any fan control... it would be the
>ignition switch that needs to be replaced... you can try one thing... with
>enging running... turn back the key just a bit more without shutting engine
>off... usually the spring is bad and the switch won't return to 'on'
>position.

    yeah, mine does that as well.... it's getting a bit tiresome to keep
turning back the key a 'tad'.  How the heck does one take that switch out?
i've been looking at it and given up so far.

cheers, guenter
Tiger - 15 Apr 2006 02:06 GMT
WIth the underdash off... you need to turn key into ACC position and then
pull the wire plug out on the back. Turn the key back to off... and remove
the switch with stubby flat screwdriver. Three of them.

Now, before you stick that new switch in... make sure the slot position
match the old switch... otherwise, if you force it in. you will break that
tab inside the ignition lock and will need to change out that whole lock...
cost alot more.
Guenter Scholz - 15 Apr 2006 03:10 GMT
>WIth the underdash off... you need to turn key into ACC position and then
>pull the wire plug out on the back. Turn the key back to off... and remove
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>tab inside the ignition lock and will need to change out that whole lock...
>cost alot more.

   Tiger, great, thanks!  However, I don't get the comment re the three
stubby flat screwdrivers.  Stubby presumably because there isnt' much room
but why 3 of them?  Geez, I've got enough problems dealing with one
correctly  :-)

cheers
Guenter Scholz - 15 Apr 2006 16:53 GMT
..... screws, three screws ..... takes a while sometimes.... :-)

thanks again Tiger

ps  I initially had the impression that the return spring was in the tumbler
   mechanism, but I now realize that it's the rear electrical part of the
   3-part ignition switch (Tumbler, housing, electrical switch) Correct??

cheers, guenter


>>WIth the underdash off... you need to turn key into ACC position and then
>>pull the wire plug out on the back. Turn the key back to off... and remove
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>
>cheers
Tiger - 16 Apr 2006 05:49 GMT
I meant three screws needed to be removed by one stubby flat screwdriver...
not three screwdrivers... Yes, space is incredibly tight... you can use a
skewdriver... which is an angled screwdriver where you twist the handle and
the screwbits will move... you will need the 1.5" screwdriver bit.

Yes, the spring is in the ignition switch part.
 
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