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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2006

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sl600 window problem

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SW - 29 Apr 2006 17:04 GMT
The drivers side window in my 94 sl600 made clunking sounds going up
sometimes. Now it is off track and you can just hear a whirring sound when
you hit the switch to make it go up and down. The window is disconnected.
The door looks pretty eloborate. How do I get in there to fix it and what
will I find to be fixed? Any body repair people here?
OM - 29 Apr 2006 19:00 GMT
There is a small piece of plastic behind the chrome handle. Pry it out
to reveal the screw which removes the chrome housing. That is where a
massive screw is attaching the door handle to the door. There are some
more screws underneath the armrest. I think you might have to pry the
lower cover (been a while since I worked on R129 and W140). When you pry
the entire door cover, please be careful and use proper tool that
resembles like two-thong screwdriver. Don't just tear the cover off the
door. Otherwise, the cover won't seat properly again. You will probably
need to buy new plastic anchors if they get sheared in the process.
They're pretty cheap to replace. Then lift the whole cover vertically to
remove. Make sure you properly disconnect any cables from the cover.

Once you can see what is happening inside the door, look for some clues
of damage or mishap.

If the window frame jumped, try to see where the frame came loosened. It
could be the bolt and nut that came loose: look for them in the bottom
of door.

If the window frame is still anchored to the track and can be moved up
or down, a few possibilities here: broken plastic pieces that anchor the
cable to the window frame or the winding mechanism; broken teeth on the
gear wheels; or cable itself is snapped in half.

Ok, here's the bad news: it is very likely that you might have to
replace the ENTIRE winding mechanism rather than just broken parts. The
days of buying individual parts are long gone.

My brother was incensed when a tiny, (yes, really tiny about 1/4 inch by
1/8 inch) plastic prong that anchored the cable to the winding mechanism
broke in his wife's 1993 Toyota Corolla. He was more incensed when
Toyota car part fitment department wanted $380,--- for the replacement.
Yes, $380,---! Not just for one tiny part but entire winding mechanism.
Being imaginative, we figured a better repair for $15,---.

Oliver

> The drivers side window in my 94 sl600 made clunking sounds going up
> sometimes. Now it is off track and you can just hear a whirring sound when
> you hit the switch to make it go up and down. The window is disconnected.
> The door looks pretty eloborate. How do I get in there to fix it and what
> will I find to be fixed? Any body repair people here?
trader4@optonline.net - 29 Apr 2006 23:31 GMT
Sounds like a broken window regulator.  I just replaced one on my 80
300SD yesterday.  It's a big help to have a service manual, so you know
how it all comes apart.  The good news for me, at least, was I got an
aftermarket one on Ebay for $70.

Only problems I had were :

1 - One of the threaded holes in the replacement one were not cut
correctly and after getting it into position inside the door and
starting the other bolts, I had to tap the damn hole.  Fortunately, I
had the 6mm tap.  And I know why.  I remember having to do this on the
last one I bought about 6 years ago.

2 - After getting the whole damn thing in, I went to adjust the stop
that limits how far down it can go.   There is a screw and stop on the
window regulator.   And to get to it, there is a round hole on the
inside door sheet metal.  Well guess, what.  The old one had an allen
head screw, so the hole in the door is plenty big for that.  But the
replacement one has a regular hex head bolt and the hole in the door
aint big enough for a socket!   Boy was I pissed!   Luckily I was
barely able to get the bolt out, replace it with the allen head one
from the old one, and do this without the damn stop falling off inside
the door!  You;t think the guys that make these things would realize
this stuff, but apparently not.   Still bettern that paying $$$$ for
one from Bavaria.

So, all in all, it went pretty well and she's running up and down nice
and smooth!
SW - 21 May 2006 02:21 GMT
OK, I am convinced it is the window regulator as it seems to be missing
teeth or something. Sometimes they catch and sometimes they don't.
So I have the left hand door stripped to the point of the plastic shield
off. There are a few open places and I can sorta see some of the mechanism
in there. Looks maybe like the motor is behind a big spring in the door. Is
the regulator in there somewhere? Does the inside portion of the door come
off so I can get to the window mechanism? If not, how do you get to it all?
This is a really complicated auto.
Thanks

> Sounds like a broken window regulator.  I just replaced one on my 80
> 300SD yesterday.  It's a big help to have a service manual, so you know
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> So, all in all, it went pretty well and she's running up and down nice
> and smooth!
Peter W Peternouschek - 30 Apr 2006 04:29 GMT
http://www.astro-nut.com/mb-door.html
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Excellent info on door panel removal. Once you have the panel off and remove
the plastic sheeting you can see what is going on. I would bet on the
regulator being worn out.
I replaced the regulators on both doors on my 95 sl320 when they started to
make clunking noises.
Good Luck
Peter

> The drivers side window in my 94 sl600 made clunking sounds going up
> sometimes. Now it is off track and you can just hear a whirring sound when
> you hit the switch to make it go up and down. The window is disconnected.
> The door looks pretty eloborate. How do I get in there to fix it and what
> will I find to be fixed? Any body repair people here?
SW - 13 May 2006 20:22 GMT
Thank you all for the great feedback on this. You guys are the greatest! I
will get hot on it.
> The drivers side window in my 94 sl600 made clunking sounds going up
> sometimes. Now it is off track and you can just hear a whirring sound when
> you hit the switch to make it go up and down. The window is disconnected.
> The door looks pretty eloborate. How do I get in there to fix it and what
> will I find to be fixed? Any body repair people here?
SW - 19 May 2006 21:55 GMT
OK, I am convinced it is the window regulator as it seems to be missing
teeth or something. Sometimes they catch and sometimes they don't.
So I have the left hand door stripped to the point of the plastic shield
off. There are a few open places and I can sorta see some of the mechanism
in there. Looks maybe like the motor is behind a big spring in the door. Is
the regulator in there somewhere? Does the inside portion of the door come
off so I can get to the window mechanism? If not, how do you get to it all?
This is a really complicated auto.
Thanks

> The drivers side window in my 94 sl600 made clunking sounds going up
> sometimes. Now it is off track and you can just hear a whirring sound when
> you hit the switch to make it go up and down. The window is disconnected.
> The door looks pretty eloborate. How do I get in there to fix it and what
> will I find to be fixed? Any body repair people here?
 
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