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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2006

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Bob Smith - 04 May 2006 00:46 GMT
Does anyone have information about the new diesel engine Mercedes is
introducing this Fall? I also understand a new clean burning diesel fuel
will be mandatory in the U.S. in Sept.
T.G. Lambach - 04 May 2006 01:36 GMT
Announced last month at NY Auto Show - E Class with 3.0L 24 valve V-6 to
be available in October after new low sulfur diesel is available. Engine
uses a soot trap or catalyst and Blu Tec (urea injection) eliminates NOx
emissions.

This engine is currently sold in the UK and makes about 33% better
mileage there than the 3.5L V-6 gas motor in the E350 model.
Dori A Schmetterling - 04 May 2006 13:39 GMT
Welcome to the new (diesel) world!

DAS

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> Announced last month at NY Auto Show - E Class with 3.0L 24 valve V-6 to
> be available in October after new low sulfur diesel is available. Engine
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> This engine is currently sold in the UK and makes about 33% better mileage
> there than the 3.5L V-6 gas motor in the E350 model.
John Mauel - 04 May 2006 04:02 GMT
> Does anyone have information about the new diesel engine Mercedes is
> introducing this Fall? I also understand a new clean burning diesel fuel
> will be mandatory in the U.S. in Sept.

Have a look at:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Apr06/28ALookAtMBUSADieselLineup.html

John M.
Dori A Schmetterling - 04 May 2006 13:43 GMT
A couple of odd statements on the website:

"...few options allow drivers to maintain the spaciousness and drive quality
found in traditional gasoline-powered automobiles."

What has spaciousness to do with petrol power?

E.g. the E-Class and its predecessor has been available with a diesel engine
forever.

"To appease the American public and their affinity for larger vehicles, the
Mercedes M-Class and R-Class are both scheduled to received diesel
powerplants this fall."

The M has had diesel engines all along AFAIK.  Maybe not in the US???  In
fact, in Europe most 'off-roaders' are sold with diesel engines AFAIK.

DAS

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>> Does anyone have information about the new diesel engine Mercedes is
>> introducing this Fall? I also understand a new clean burning diesel fuel
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> John M.
jdoe - 04 May 2006 14:00 GMT
>A couple of odd statements on the website:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>The M has had diesel engines all along AFAIK.  Maybe not in the US???  In
>fact, in Europe most 'off-roaders' are sold with diesel engines AFAIK.

for more than 15 years or so the only MB diesel car in the US were
e classes
cp - 07 May 2006 06:41 GMT
> for more than 15 years or so the only MB diesel car in the US were
> e classes

Not true. There was a w140 diesel

1992-1993    300SD
1994-1998    S350

cp
Geoff Miller - 10 May 2006 13:40 GMT
> Not true. There was a w140 diesel

> 1992-1993    300SD
> 1994-1998    S350

So...the diesel S-class reverted to the 3-litre engine
after the "rodbender" fiasco of the W126 350SDL, and
then returned to the 3.5 once again after that?

Geoff

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Øyvind S - 10 May 2006 13:56 GMT
>> Not true. There was a w140 diesel
>
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> after the "rodbender" fiasco of the W126 350SDL, and
> then returned to the 3.5 once again after that?

No, this is how it was;

10.1991 - 06.1993 300SD (the 3.5 motor)
06.1993 - 08.1996 S350TD (still the 3.5 motor)
06.1996 - 08.1998 S300TD (the better 3.0 motor)

Taken from http://www.mb-w140.de/

br,
syljua
Harri Markkula - 10 May 2006 20:16 GMT
>> Not true. There was a w140 diesel
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> after the "rodbender" fiasco of the W126 350SDL, and
> then returned to the 3.5 once again after that?

Do not forget the 4 liter V8 CDI we have here in Europe.

Reg:    Harri
Richard Sexton - 04 May 2006 17:39 GMT
>A couple of odd statements on the website:
>
>"...few options allow drivers to maintain the spaciousness and drive quality
>found in traditional gasoline-powered automobiles."
>
>What has spaciousness to do with petrol power?

I suspect it's a roundabout way of pointing out that there aren't
many diesel powered luxury cars.

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John Mauel - 04 May 2006 18:17 GMT
> The M has had diesel engines all along AFAIK.  Maybe not in the US???  In
> fact, in Europe most 'off-roaders' are sold with diesel engines AFAIK.
> DAS

This has, for years, been a source of frustration for me.  Even before the
recent run-up in fuel prices, I have thought that the ideal vehicle for my
work would be a smallish, cave-man simple, no-frills, 4x4 pick-up or SUV
with a smallish (2-3 litre or so) diesel.  Thick on the ground in Europe,
but (except for the too-small Jeep Liberty) North American (read American)
diesels are limited to only the largest, heaviest (and most expensive) of
trucks, and even then, are nearly $10,000 more expensive than the gasoline
powered equivalents. Ford Rangers way back in the early 80's were available
with a tiny diesel, and Volkswagen imported a Rabbit-based pick-up type
contraption with a diesel. (I think they sold about 15 of them.)  I am
hoping that, with gasoline at $1.10 a litre, (please, no protests from the
over-taxed Europeans :-)) a manufacturer will see this unexploited market
niche sometime before I retire.

John M.
uses his '94 E320 strictly for pleasure, driving in the sun, without a care.
 
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