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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2006

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Waste vegetable oil acquisition?

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trader4@optonline.net - 12 May 2006 13:06 GMT
I'm starting to think about possibly converting my 300SD to WVO.  I've
got a pretty good idea of what's involved with that.  One thing I'm
still curious about is where do folks get the WVO?  Is anyone here
doing that?   I know the basic idea is your supposed to get it from
restaurants, but I'm wondering about how practical that is.   It would
seem these restaurants already have a means of disposing of the
vegetable oil.  So, to get it, are folks just taking it out of an
outside tank that the restaurant already has there?  I can't imagine
the restaurant is keeping some seperate just for the local guy who
wants to pick up 20 gallons now and then.  Does this not interfere with
the arrangement that the restaurant already has with some company?

Also, how are people picking it up?  Seems without a vehicle like a
pickup truck with a 55 gal drum adapted to easily transport this, it
would be a royal pain.  I guess you could use multiple 5 gallon pails,
and pack as many of those into the car as possible.

So, if anyone is doing it, or knows someone who is, I'd be interested
to hear how they go about it.

TIA

Chet
Gordon Hudson - 12 May 2006 13:25 GMT
> I'm starting to think about possibly converting my 300SD to WVO.  I've
> got a pretty good idea of what's involved with that.  One thing I'm
> still curious about is where do folks get the WVO?  Is anyone here
> doing that?

The viablity of this is really down to price.
In the UK fuel is so expensive that people actually buy drums of new
vegetable oil to run cars.
I have even seen someone going round the supermarket filling a trolley with
plastic bottles of oil when its on special offer.
I would guess that if veg oil costs not much less than fuel in your country
then you would need to use waste oil to make it worthwhile.
Waste oil needs to be filtered.

I would recommend doing a search at www.google.co.uk and specifiy pages from
the UK
Look for biodiesel and simialr search terms.
There is lots of info out there or try uk.rec.cars.misc
Tiger - 12 May 2006 14:37 GMT
Well, there are alot of choices. If you want to do the whole process
yourself, it is the matter of just asking the owner to take used oil from
them. Majority of them pays someone to remove it for them... not much money
though but some vendors are so stingy they still want to charge restaurants
more money.

Restaurants use oils regularly so they also have tons of those 4 or 5
gallons containers they throw out... you can ask them to put them aside for
you or if they will simply pour them into the container for you... perhaps
you can supply them widemouth funnel to make their job easier. Otherwise,
you just need a pump to remove it from the tank... only skim the top to get
the good oil... bottom are water and gunks. So it helps to let the oil
settle then ask them to put it in containers for you.

Other choices is simply buy the strained WVO from other people... like in
Connecticut there are biodiesel coop... where people share a tank... one
person handle all the work and you pay... like a dollar a gallon. Biodeisel
coop also buy biodiesel from  commercial supplier but they cost $4 a
gallon... yet, the plus side is no OPEC oil... all vege and animal fat
processed.

There are vast resources on internet... just look into it.
trader4@optonline.net - 12 May 2006 14:51 GMT
> Well, there are alot of choices. If you want to do the whole process
> yourself, it is the matter of just asking the owner to take used oil from
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> the good oil... bottom are water and gunks. So it helps to let the oil
> settle then ask them to put it in containers for you.

My question is whether anyone has actual experience doing this.   I
know it's possible, but from a practical standpoint, why should  a
restaurant start storing oil seperately, putting the good stuff aside
in seperate containers, take space to store it, hoping I'll actually
show up to take it, compared to just dumping it in some big oil dirty
tank they already do?   That;'s why I'm curious as to what the actual
reaction has been.

> Other choices is simply buy the strained WVO from other people... like in
> Connecticut there are biodiesel coop... where people share a tank... one
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>
> There are vast resources on internet... just look into it.
jdoe - 12 May 2006 15:19 GMT
>> Well, there are alot of choices. If you want to do the whole process
>> yourself, it is the matter of just asking the owner to take used oil from
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>tank they already do?   That;'s why I'm curious as to what the actual
>reaction has been.

check out willie nelson's bio diesel page
Roger - 12 May 2006 21:27 GMT
> > Well, there are alot of choices. If you want to do the whole process
> > yourself, it is the matter of just asking the owner to take used oil from
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> tank they already do?   That;'s why I'm curious as to what the actual
> reaction has been.

About 5 years ago I had an arrangement with a local fish and chip shop,
they would drain off their oil into the empty containers the new stuff came
in and I would pick it up at my leisure. Eventually they were producing
far more waste oil than I could use - 400 to 500 litres a week and I had
to ask them to stop for a while. When I wanted to startup again a commercial
concern had started up a mini tanker filtration system, they pump the oil
from
the fryers to a tanker with about 10 fine filters, the oil is then pumped
back
to the fryers and re used. Upto five filtrations now take place now before
the
oil is disposed of in the tanker. They use a pH test on the oil to see if
its still
ok to use. Not sure how that all works though.
 
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