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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2006

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Electric windows in W123

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Valamarth - 27 May 2006 17:16 GMT
Hi everybody...

Let me ask you a question - is it possible to install electric windows in
W123? Are there any parts for 123 or should I try using something from 124
or maybe even some completely different car (WV, Audi... no idea)?

Anybody tried? What is (may be) the cost?

Thank you in advance

PS.good to know there's a group about Mercedes :)
PS2. I'm not English native speaker so forgive me any mistakes (you can
point them out :)

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T.G. Lambach - 27 May 2006 18:21 GMT
It would be cheaper to buy another 123 with electric windows than to
convert your car.

Each door needs a "regulator" that's an electric motor and drive gear,
the wiring harness that powers the motor, relays to switch the power and
finally, the console and rear door switches and the wiring harnesses to
connect everything. One can buy the regulators used but the wiring
harnesses, relays will be new and relatively expensive. Then there's the
labor and the risk of a mistake damaging your car's electrical system.

Cars can be repaired relatively easily - remove and replace the broken
part - but quite difficult and expensive to modify as you propose.
Richard Sexton - 29 May 2006 18:56 GMT
>Cars can be repaired relatively easily - remove and replace the broken
>part - but quite difficult and expensive to modify as you propose.

Nah, I don't think so. You can disassemble a door in about half an hour. Do
that to your door and the donor electric door, then reasemble it on
your car. Somebody, with one persons help could do this in an afternoon.

You'll need the consold insert with windows switvhes too, get that when
you get the door. And some wire and a soldering iron.

If you were to find the parts heap enough you could pay for the labour
maybe. Have a body shop do the mechanical stuff and explain to them
you're having an auto elecric place do the wiring. 5 hour slabour
max but I bet there are people that could do it in an hour frankly.

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Richard Sexton - 29 May 2006 18:46 GMT
>Hi everybody...
>
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>
>Anybody tried? What is (may be) the cost?

I'm sure somebody's done it. Go to a wrecking yard and procure
a 123 door, complete. With glass and interior panel and electric windows.

If you're lucky or patient you can find one in your paint color
and the same interior color. And no rust. NO rust.

Now bolt this door onto your car, run a few extra wires and you're
done.

If the door is not good enough or you only get the parts, then take your door
apart andd add the moto. You will need ther interior panel from the auto door
if I recall.

It's good to have the other door as parts. They'll be more useful as time goes on
and good doors get hard to get. It's not that easy now in some areas.

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The Spanish Inquisition - 29 May 2006 19:19 GMT
>> Hi everybody...
>>
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> apart andd add the moto. You will need ther interior panel from the auto door
> if I recall.

I'm not the world's most technical guy, but I did this for a 76' Renault
16 in the early eighties. IIRC I put in new switches and wiring, the
motors and mechanism came from a wreking yard. It must have looked
pretty clunky, but it worked and none of my friends had electric windows
back then ;)

I'd pay someone else to do it now...

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Richard Sexton - 29 May 2006 20:52 GMT
>> If the door is not good enough or you only get the parts, then take your door
>> apart andd add the moto. You will need ther interior panel from the auto door
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>
>I'd pay someone else to do it now...

Yeah I did it on a Fiat once and I wouldn't do that again but the
MB really is a better car to work on. I don't mind doing this it's
really not bad.

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