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Country Stickers: Where To Get Them?

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Geoff Miller - 30 May 2006 18:32 GMT
You know those oval, white stickers that have one-
to three-letter abbreviations for countries on them?
D for Germany, S for Sweden, and all that?  Where do
people get them?  Is there an online source?

Geoff

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John Mauel - 30 May 2006 21:31 GMT
> You know those oval, white stickers that have one-
> to three-letter abbreviations for countries on them?
> D for Germany, S for Sweden, and all that?  Where do
> people get them?  Is there an online source?
>
> Geoff

You can try here:
http://www.europeanplates.com/

John M.
Looking for a front plate to fit my
'94 E320
Dori A Schmetterling - 31 May 2006 21:46 GMT
That company can't actually make 'real' German plates because they can't
apply the official stamps to the plates...

I presume that Geoff M is in the USA otherwise any motorists' supply shop
will stock their own country's.  If such stickers are required when crossing
a North American border then any relevant Candian or US shop will (ought
to!) stock CA or US stickers respectively.

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>> Geoff
>
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> Looking for a front plate to fit my
> '94 E320
Geoff Miller - 02 Jun 2006 16:56 GMT
> I presume that Geoff M is in the USA otherwise any motorists'
> supply shop will stock their own country's.  If such stickers
> are required when crossing a North American border then any
> relevant Candian or US shop will (ought to!) stock CA or US
> stickers respectively.

Yes, I'm in the USA -- California, to be exact.  The stickers
aren't required here.  I see an occasional car that has one,
but I've never seen them for sale in auto supply shops.  I'd
always assumed that people here obtained them during trips to
Europe.

I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

Geoff

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Dori A Schmetterling - 02 Jun 2006 17:43 GMT
Who would get the reference in the USA?

Or is this an oblique ref to a piece of computer memory (DDR RAM)?

DAS
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> I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.
>
> Geoff
Geoff Miller - 07 Jun 2006 15:28 GMT
Dori A Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wonders:

> Who would get the reference in the USA?

Pretty much any literate person who lived through the Cold War,
I'd think.  Contrary to popular belief abroad, many of us _are_
aware of matters beyond our borders.

> Or is this an oblique ref to a piece of computer memory (DDR RAM)?

No, it's a straightforward reference to the former country.  For one
thing it would cause people to do a doubletake, just because of the
rarity.  I've only ever seen one "DDR" sticker, on the back of a big
Ford 4WD pickup truck of all things.

And for another, the idea of a "DDR" oval on a long-wheelbase W126 is
endearingly perverse.  A Trabant it ain't.

(The first time I saw a reference to DDR RAM, in a newspaper adver-
tisement for a local electronics store, I thought to myself that the
computer had East German memory.)

Geoff

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Dori A Schmetterling - 09 Jun 2006 19:50 GMT
In the old days  they were very rare in Germany (West), too, since noone was
allowed out in that direction....

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just because of the
> rarity.  I've only ever seen one "DDR" sticker, on the back of a big
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Peter Brown - 02 Jun 2006 19:50 GMT
> Yes, I'm in the USA -- California, to be exact.  The stickers
> aren't required here.  I see an occasional car that has one,
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>
> I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

No thoughts of buying a Trabant and seeing what diktat will do for the
car industry? One used to see the poor things farting along at 50 mph
on the Autobahn, unwashed, half fractured, and all with their wee DDR
signs on the back.

I have a few DDR stickers at home I bought 20 years ago, but home's on
the other side of the world. My ex put one on her 250D. You can buy
them readily from some memorabilia shops in Berlin, which isn't much
help to you either, but I will be in Germany next month and I shall
keep an eye out if you like.

By and large, the countries near the borders with Switzerland and the
Eastern European countries used to stock the stickers as it was a
requirement of entry. Since the new European numberplates and the entry
of the Soviet satellite countries, they have become rather superfluous
in central/Western Europe - apart from GB, of course.

Peter
Dori A Schmetterling - 04 Jun 2006 19:56 GMT
Don't geddit. It is only compulsory to have a country sticker if the country
is not already shown in an authorised way.  EU plates show the country in a
blue band at left.

In the UK the standard EU plate is an option.  I have it, so I don't need an
additional GB sticker when going abroad.

Cars with old plates do not need to retrofitted (but would need a country
sticker when crossing a border).

I don't know in which countries the EU standard plate is mandatory.  In Eire
I think it is, for example.

DAS

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they have become rather superfluous
> in central/Western Europe - apart from GB, of course.
>
> Peter
Juergen . - 10 Jun 2006 23:14 GMT
> I don't know in which countries the EU standard plate is mandatory.

EU plates are only a recommendation, each country can
decide itself whether to have them or not and if they
then are mandatory or a choice.

Here in Germany until 14.01.1995 we had national plates
only.
>From 15th January 1995 until 31st of October 2000 one
could choose, national or EU, since November 1st 2000
EU plates are mandatory for all new vehicles and also if
the old plates have to be replaced (re-location of car,
plates stolen).

According to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Kennzeichen
these countries do have the EU plates:

Austria
Belgium
Croatia (no EU member)
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Estonia
Finland (option)
France (option)
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxemburg
Malta
Netherlands
Poland
Portugal
Slovakia
Slowenia
Sweden (option)
UK (option)

Some information also here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_vehicle_registration_plates

Juergen
Dori A Schmetterling - 11 Jun 2006 18:44 GMT
You're not disagreeing with me!  In fact, you are confirming my comment and
providing extra info.  My point is that it depends on the country whether on
new plates the EU-style is mandatory.  It isn't in the UK, for example, and
you confirmed that with the Wikipedia extract (even though I treat Wikipedia
information as only preliminary).

(I have the new style on my newer car for two reasons, one being that I
don't want a large sticker anywhere on the back.)

DAS
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>> I don't know in which countries the EU standard plate is mandatory.
>
> EU plates are only a recommendation, each country can
> decide itself whether to have them or not and if they
> then are mandatory or a choice.
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Juergen . - 14 Jun 2006 00:55 GMT
> You're not disagreeing with me!  In fact, you are confirming my comment and

Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you - should you have had the
impression it is my fault.

> providing extra info.  My point is that it depends on the country whether on
> new plates the EU-style is mandatory.  It isn't in the UK, for example, and
> you confirmed that with the Wikipedia extract (even though I treat Wikipedia
> information as only preliminary).

Yes, exactly.
And I wondered it was left to the individual countries
and not regulated further by the European Parliament in
Brussels.


> (I have the new style on my newer car for two reasons, one being that I
> don't want a large sticker anywhere on the back.)

I also have a non-EU plate on the 240D and have a
D oval on a magnetic folio so I can attach it to
the trunk when I need it (I don't need that anymore,
for going abroad I use other cars).

Juergen
Dori A Schmetterling - 14 Jun 2006 01:52 GMT
On my 190 the country sticker is in an upper corner of the (rear) window.  I
think that turns out to be 'illegal' as it is not near the number plate.

Don't care.  Nobody commented when I did go abroad in it and now I go in my
other car, e.g. tomorrow, to Rouen.

Such a relatively short distance as the crow flies, but such a long way via
the shuttle... :-(

DAS

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> I also have a non-EU plate on the 240D and have a
> D oval on a magnetic folio so I can attach it to
> the trunk when I need it (I don't need that anymore,
> for going abroad I use other cars).
>
> Juergen
Dori A Schmetterling - 11 Jun 2006 18:54 GMT
Checked out the links.  In the first Wikipedia link there is the implication
is that the EU country designation is not valid outside the EU, e.g. in
Romania.

I wonder if this is enforced, especially among the candidate countries like
Romania.

DAS

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> According to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Kennzeichen
> these countries do have the EU plates:

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Juergen . - 14 Jun 2006 00:54 GMT
> Checked out the links.  In the first Wikipedia link there is the implication
> is that the EU country designation is not valid outside the EU, e.g. in
> Romania.

Yes, that's what I also have read from other sources.

> I wonder if this is enforced, especially among the candidate countries like
> Romania.

In general, I don't think so. But maybe if a local police
officer wants some baksheesh...

Juergen
Geoff Miller - 07 Jun 2006 15:37 GMT
: I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

> No thoughts of buying a Trabant and seeing what diktat will do
> for the car industry? One used to see the poor things farting
> along at 50 mph on the Autobahn, unwashed, half fractured, and
> all with their wee DDR signs on the back.

I'd like to have a Trabant.  Not as serious transportation, but just
for fun and novelty's sake.  Unfortunately, they aren't street-legal
in the USA, to put it mildly.  (I'm something of a Cold War buff, I
suppose.  I love John Le Carre novels and have a "Fallout Shelter"
sign on my living room wall.)

> I have a few DDR stickers at home I bought 20 years ago, but home's
> on the other side of the world. My ex put one on her 250D. You can
> buy them readily from some memorabilia shops in Berlin, which isn't
> much help to you either, but I will be in Germany next month and I
> shall keep an eye out if you like.

Sure, that'd be great.  If you find one or two, I can reimburse you
with a postal money order.  Thanks for offering.

> By and large, the countries near the borders with Switzerland and the
> Eastern European countries used to stock the stickers as it was a
> requirement of entry. Since the new European numberplates and the entry
> of the Soviet satellite countries, they have become rather superfluous
> in central/Western Europe - apart from GB, of course.

I didn't realize until fairly recently that they were required.  I had
the impression that they were simply low-key expressions of national-
istic pride, like the way some Americans have flag decals on their cars
or pleasure craft have the names of their homeports on their transoms.

Geoff

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Dori A Schmetterling - 09 Jun 2006 19:53 GMT
Probably not allowed on emission grounds.  They only got a special exemption
in (western) Germany for political reasons as they exceeded permitted
pollution levels already in 1989.

DAS

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> No thoughts of buying a Trabant and seeing what diktat will do for the
> car industry? One used to see the poor things farting along at 50 mph
> on the Autobahn, unwashed, half fractured, and all with their wee DDR
> signs on the back.
[...]
cp - 09 Jun 2006 06:23 GMT
> I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

DDR is for East Germany, why would you want to put up that?

cp
Geoff Miller - 09 Jun 2006 20:08 GMT
cp <asdf@asdf.com> wants to know:

: I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

> DDR is for East Germany, why would you want to put up that?

Because I'm weird.

Geoff

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cp - 10 Jun 2006 20:57 GMT
> "The East German Stasi are now all cab drivers.  You tell them
> your name, they know where you live." -- Julian Macassey

Now THAT is a classic!

cp
Juergen . - 10 Jun 2006 23:16 GMT
> cp <asdf@asdf.com> wants to know:
> > DDR is for East Germany, why would you want to put up that?
> Because I'm weird.
> Geoff

Very valid reason!   ;-)))

> --
> "The East German Stasi are now all cab drivers.  You tell them
>  your name, they know where you live." -- Julian Macassey

Great!!!

Juergen
Juergen . - 10 Jun 2006 23:14 GMT
Oooooops - forgot to send these emails for a week or so...  :-((

> I'd like to get a "DDR" one and put it on my 300SDL.

There's a small print on the back of these stickers:

Warning!
Putting this sticker on any Western German product
may transform it into a Trabant overnight.
Use at your own risk!

Juergen ;-)
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant
Dori A Schmetterling - 31 May 2006 22:36 GMT
BTW, those country stickers shown on that website:

http://www.europeanplates.com/originstickers.htm

are a rare embellished type.  Normally there are no flags on them and the
country name is NOT written out.

But they look nice.

DAS

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>> You know those oval, white stickers that have one-
>> to three-letter abbreviations for countries on them?
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> Looking for a front plate to fit my
> '94 E320
FYIS.org/ - 09 Jun 2006 20:30 GMT
> You know those oval, white stickers that have one-
> to three-letter abbreviations for countries on them?
> D for Germany, S for Sweden, and all that?  Where do
> people get them?  Is there an online source?
>
> Geoff

How about the DDR logo sticker and a matching shirt?
http://www.xl-import.com/image.asp?pic=64987.jpg

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org

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Geoff Miller - 09 Jun 2006 22:17 GMT
> How about the DDR logo sticker and a matching shirt?
> http://www.xl-import.com/image.asp?pic=64987.jpg

Oh, those are cool!  Thanks, comrade.

Geoff

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Dori A Schmetterling - 11 Jun 2006 18:46 GMT
Even though the logo is not the one for the car...

DAS

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>> How about the DDR logo sticker and a matching shirt?
>> http://www.xl-import.com/image.asp?pic=64987.jpg
>
> Oh, those are cool!  Thanks, comrade.
>
> Geoff
dale.schultz@gmail.com - 11 Jun 2006 10:36 GMT
> You know those oval, white stickers that have one-
> to three-letter abbreviations for countries on them?
> D for Germany, S for Sweden, and all that?  Where do
> people get them?  Is there an online source?
>
> Geoff

Hi Geoff--
I was just in the local Autobahn rest stop shop and noticed they had
DDR stickers, so I bought a couple. They're yours gratis if you want
them (Yeah I know, mighty white of me). You can contact me at my gmail
address with your snail mail info.

drs
 
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