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one dollar per gallon biodiesel in South Carolina ( McBrue Territory )

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greek_philosophizer - 17 Jun 2006 22:40 GMT
http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=93458&section=localnews

Lowcountry Biodiesel
Plant to turn waste vegetable oil into fuel

BY CHRIS DIXON
The Post and Courier

The Lowcountry's first biodiesel plant will be built in an unused
warehouse on the former Navy base, creating a local source of nontoxic,
low-cost fuel that can be used in nearly any diesel engine and marking
a further advance in what's been a largely backyard industry in South
Carolina.

While one biodiesel plant already is being operated in the Upstate by
Carolina Biofuels, the North Charleston plant will be unique in that it
will use waste vegetable oil from hundreds of area restaurants to
eventually fill the tanks of school buses, automobiles, trucks and even
shrimp boats.

The lease agreement was signed Thursday between the Noisette Co. and
Charleston-based Southeast Biodiesel. Plant owner Dean Schmelter, who
owns several chemical processing businesses throughout the Southeast,
said the idea for the Noisette plant came about accidentally.

"Last summer I was talking to my diesel mechanic at Black Forest
Imports in Mount Pleasant," he said. "I was complaining about the high
cost of fuel, and he said, 'Well, you're a chemist. Do something about
it.'"

Schmelter set up a small-scale operation at one of his Florida
facilities. There, he perfected the process for making the fuel. He now
runs his Mercedes turbo diesel on B100, or 100 biodiesel.

Rudolph Diesel, founder of the diesel engine, originally created his
spark plug-free motor so that farmers could power their tractors with
oil from plants they grew. Nearly any diesel engine built today will
run on straight vegetable oil, but the fuel system must be modified to
heat the oil so it flows smoothly. This process is unnecessary with
biodiesel.

To make biodiesel, waste vegetable oil must be filtered and de-watered.
It then goes through a process that utilizes methanol and lye to remove
fats that could clog fuel injection systems. The process leaves behind
the fuel and glycerin, a key ingredient in soap. "I like the EPA's
line," said Schmelter, "It's more biodegradeable than sugar and less
toxic than salt. It looks and smells just like the vegetable oil in
your pantry."

Schmelter said he hopes to begin annual production this fall of about 2
million gallons, with an ability to ramp up with relative ease. The
plant will employ about seven people initially and its fuel should cost
about a dollar a gallon.

Fuel should begin to flow right around the time that the South Carolina
has mandated that all the state's diesel engines, including notoriously
pollution-belching school buses, begin operating on B20, a mix of 20
percent biodiesel and 80 percent petroleum diesel.

Biodiesel provides a substantial emissions benefit whether used as B20
or B100. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, B100
produces 67 percent fewer unburned hydrocarbons, 48 percent less carbon
monoxide and 47 percent less particulate matter. At a 20 percent
mixture, the reductions are 20, 12 and 12 percent respectively.

The combustion of biodiesel also results in about 10 percent lower
emissions of carbon dioxide or CO2 - a greenhouse gas. If vegetation
used to make the fuel oil is replanted, then B100 produces almost no
greenhouse emissions because plants take in CO2 and give off oxygen
during photosynthesis.

James Peeler, a machine shop owner from Gray Court has been making
biodiesel and working on a pilot program for school buses in his area.

"With oil from their school cafeterias and prisons, I can make
biodiesel for $1.50 a gallon," he said, adding that he sees biodiesel
as a means to keep Carolina farmers on their land and wean the United
States off of foreign oil. This week, he used his homemade fuel to
drive his Ford F-350 Diesel pickup truck and fifth-wheel recreational
vehicle from Laurens to James Island for a family vacation. He said the
truck runs better on biodiesel, and gets better mileage.

"I don't mind paying taxes, but I really don't like paying Exxon for
fuel," he said. "When someone starts gouging my back pocket, I start
looking for another way."

Like ethanol gasoline blends, which can be made from locally produced
corn, biodiesel has been getting noticed by state politicians.

Last week, legislators passed a bill that includes tax credits for new
ethanol or biodiesel facilities. Plants that begin operations between
2007 and 2009 will earn tax credits of 20 cents per gallon, and 25
percent on the cost of equipment and distribution. Additionally,
purchasers of E85 (85 percent ethanol, 15 percent gasoline) or B20 will
get a five-cent-per-gallon discount at the pump.

At the Noisette Co., project manager Jeff Baxter said that the new
plant will mesh well with the nearby Fisher recycling plant and
Noisette's overall ambition of creating a sustainable community by
supplying a renewable fuel.

"You'll have the Dodge diesel Sprinter vans manufactured up here, along
with the maritime industry and all the local trucking that can run on
biodiesel," he said. "There are a lot of people here who could use this
stuff."

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Tiger - 18 Jun 2006 02:33 GMT
Wow... cheap diesel... now only if I can convince someone to do it up here.
cp - 18 Jun 2006 21:43 GMT
> Wow... cheap diesel... now only if I can convince someone to do it up here.

Do it yourself. You don't even need to convert it to biodiesel, just filter it well and use it straight. Many people do that (I
don't because I take transit to work and spend only around $150/month on fuel). There are a lot of options. You can buy a system for
your car which will make the use simpler.

http://www.greasel.com/Mercedes.html

Unless you live in an area where there are a lot of people scoring grease from the local restaurants, getting waste oil is easy,
took me two minutes yesterday to get a weekly supply for a friend, just ask them if they would be interested in getting their used
oil recycled for free (up here they have to pay)

cp
OM - 18 Jun 2006 11:57 GMT
Gee, the politicians ought take notice of how restrictive EPA is toward
the diesel vehicles, denying us the benefit of using Biodiesel on a
larger scale. As long as the diesel vehicles cannot easily and cheaply
meet the ridiculous EPA regulations, we will continue to have a very
restricted choice. Even though EPA tiers and EU levels are very similar,
but they differ enormously on procedures of measuring and certifying,
adding more cost of engineering the system and programming the ECU to
comply with EPA.

It's time to do something about the EPA and NHTSA. And to push for the
full transition to the international de facto regulations, namely ECE
R29. Australians did it a while ago and were very glad to have so many
choices, especially the popular diesel vehicles.

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Tiger - 18 Jun 2006 14:35 GMT
They are never going to do it... the reason is simple as anyone is... the
need to be different.... his way... my way... one up... one down... pissant
attitude. AKA Napoleon complex.
MBuzzard - 18 Jun 2006 16:12 GMT
Biodiesel isn't the answer to the United States' reliance on foriegn
oil. I'm positive that our curent excess capacity isn't sufficient to
make a complete switch to bio fuels (e85 or biodiesel) and expanding
industrial farming complexes will involve a significant hazard to the
environment. We need to find something cleaner and more sustainable
than this to replace our current fuels.

M.
Richard Sexton - 18 Jun 2006 18:27 GMT
>Biodiesel isn't the answer to the United States' reliance on foriegn
>oil. I'm positive that our curent excess capacity isn't sufficient to
>make a complete switch to bio fuels (e85 or biodiesel) and expanding
>industrial farming complexes will involve a significant hazard to the
>environment. We need to find something cleaner and more sustainable
>than this to replace our current fuels.

Maybe. But it begs the question is there anything than can replace
fossil fuels without sending us back t the horse and buggy era.

Perhaps at this juncture we can use biodieel to mitigate the harm
while not totally reducing it to zero recognizing it as a stop gap
measure while the one true alternative is found.

The problem is it takes a lot of energy to go 100 miles and back
on a while in one night and whatever form this takes, there's
gonna be some fallout. Pun not intended. Mostly.

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OM - 18 Jun 2006 18:57 GMT
Yeah, come to think how much vegetable oil is disposed by the
restaurants and food service industry each and every day. A
regular-sized restaurant goes through a barrel of vegetable oil every
few days or so. Multiply that by thousands of restaurants. That would
give us rough estimate of how much we could 'recycle' the vegetable oil
into biodiesel. Many of restaurants are too happy to dispose the waste
vegetable oil this way. Otherwise, they must pay the disposal fee.

University of Colorado at Boulder has a fleet of biodiesel shuttle buses
and its own biodiesel production facility. It is able to sustain the
biodiesel supply solely from its own cafeterias and fast food vendors on
its campus. If CU is able to accomplish this, there's no reason why no
one else can do likewise.

There's no reason why we must make petroleum-based soaps when we can
produce glycerin-based soaps from waste vegetable oil.

I would not want to produce biodiesel straight from harvested plants but
from the restaurant or food industry waste. Putting more mileage out of
something, so to speak.

> Biodiesel isn't the answer to the United States' reliance on foriegn
> oil. I'm positive that our curent excess capacity isn't sufficient to
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> M.
cp - 18 Jun 2006 21:49 GMT
> Biodiesel isn't the answer to the United States' reliance on foriegn
> oil. I'm positive that our curent excess capacity isn't sufficient to
> make a complete switch to bio fuels (e85 or biodiesel) and expanding
> industrial farming complexes will involve a significant hazard to the
> environment. We need to find something cleaner and more sustainable
> than this to replace our current fuels.

The highest yielding and best source of Biodiesel is actually algae. According to Wikipedia:

"The per unit area yield of oil from algae,(estimated to be from between 5,000 to 20,000 gallons per acre, per year), is 7 to 31
times greater than the next best crop, palm oil(635gal). Algal-oil processes into biodiesel as easily as oil derived from land-based
crops."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algaculture#Biodiesel_production

cp
cp - 18 Jun 2006 21:45 GMT
> They are never going to do it... the reason is simple as anyone is... the need to be different.... his way... my way... one up...
> one down... pissant attitude. AKA Napoleon complex.

You've hit the nail on the head.

cp
Tiger - 19 Jun 2006 14:45 GMT
I never noticed the end of the title... McBrue's Territory. Last I heard, he
moved to Washington State.
Dori A Schmetterling - 19 Jun 2006 14:55 GMT
Permanently?

Will there be a rusty tree and a river there?

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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>I never noticed the end of the title... McBrue's Territory. Last I heard,
>he moved to Washington State.
mcbrue - 20 Jun 2006 03:14 GMT
An how come them ole restuaraunts iz givin their cookin oil away just
when it gits gud! Gotta have them well seasoned flavor in it ta git
them gud tastin fries! An wifout enuf color an smell, they aint nevah
gona git them ole fat back balls fried rite! Ummmm... Deep fried fat
back balls an grits! Dad ratttted bush - whuts he got against a gud
diet! Hows he thank any bodys gonna have a way ta fry them little burds
when ya shoots them stead a shooting sum dumb ole laywer whut aint
wurth cookin up anyway! An most of us caint shoot no lawyers laik he an
his buddies can . Thats tha truble nowadays - alla these dum idears
whut kills off tha quality of life here in greenville. Did go ta see
washington state once but it wuz rainin an stuff laik thet an all them
ole houses on them big ole island was raight hard ta see, specialy thet
realllllllly big one that kept crashing with a blue screen coming up in
front of it. An heres a free tip - don't go ta no markets in seattle
cause them ole guys gits so wired up on koffee them is throwing fish
all over an them gits mad ifn ya catches any of um. So that prooves
what them gud ole boys in tha bak alwuys sayz - stay away frum koffee -
not gud fer ya an gits ya all wurked up.

mcbrue under the bridge in the trailer down by the river

96 S420 (gas, of course)
cp - 20 Jun 2006 03:36 GMT
ha! =)

cp

> An how come them ole restuaraunts iz givin their cookin oil away just
> when it gits gud! Gotta have them well seasoned flavor in it ta git
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> 96 S420 (gas, of course)
raoul - 20 Jun 2006 04:35 GMT
> An how come them ole restuaraunts iz givin their cookin oil away just
> when it gits gud! Gotta have them well seasoned flavor in it ta git
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> mcbrue under the bridge in the trailer down by the river

Go back to bed, McBrue....
greek_philosophizer - 22 Jun 2006 18:11 GMT
> > An how come them ole restuaraunts iz givin their cookin oil away just
> > when it gits gud! Gotta have them well seasoned flavor in it ta git
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> Go back to bed, McBrue....

That was not nice Raoul.

You should apologize.

.
mcbrue - 23 Jun 2006 04:01 GMT
thank you, greek philosopher! I wus afraid ah wuld haf ta go ta be
early an tha boys in tha bak had a party planned!!!! Them wanted ta
celebrate allaus gittin bak ok frum Hilton Haid!

mcbrue under the bridge in the trailer down by the river

96 S420

ps - wus guuuuuuuud party!
 
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