Hi All,
I have a 1983 300D which has developed a really bad shaking air breather at
idle. It currently rattles against the throttle cable bracket on top of the
valve cover. I have replaced the air breather mount, which was broken, and
all of the rubber mounts which holds the air breather to the mount. There
is obviously a root cause somewhere, which caused the old one to break. If
I raise the RPMs a little (~100 or so) it smoothes out. I have just
replaced all fuel filters and as part of a tune up, but have not adjusted
the valves in the past 10k miles. The car runs good otherwise. I don't
think the dampener bolt in the injection pump has been replaced. Will this
cause the air breather to vibrate at idle? The engine itself (and the car)
do not shake excessively - just the air filter canister.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jeff
T.G. Lambach - 19 Jun 2006 07:36 GMT
This is a problem from an inherently unbalanced (5 cylinder) motor, a
too heavy air cleaner can and a poorly designed support bracket.
In my 26 year ownership the support bracket under the air filter can has
broken three times - always the rear leg. The newest one has a
reinforcement welded to that leg to help it take the motor's side to
side oscillation. I also screwed onto the air cleaner can a metal
(plumber's) strap enclosed by a piece of heater hose as a bumper between
the air cleaner can and the engine's valve cover - again to reduce the
air cleaner's oscillation.
Notice that I didn't even mention the three rubber mounts for the air
cleaner car - their failure is assumed after about 10K miles.
1. Try to lift the air cleaner from its mounts - the can will lift if
one of the rubber mounts is broken. These are about $10 each at the
local stealer but cheaper on line.
2. When the motor at idle sounds like a semi automatic, the support
bracket has broken and needs to be replaced. Suggest a steel semicircle
arc be welded to the new bracket to stiffen its rear leg - but not so
large that it won't fit.
3. The rack damper pin is adjusted correctly if the motor doesn't shake
heavily (1/2" or greater oscillation) at hot idle. The shaking is awful
and suddenly stops with a slight turn of the bolt - day vs. night. So,
unless the whole car acts like a jumping bean at hot idle, leave it
alone for its either OK, or not.
If I have further problems with this lousy design I'm going to mount the
air cleaner can on the fender and pipe the air to the turbo.
Richard Sexton - 19 Jun 2006 22:14 GMT
In article <F4KdnVNM7_lx2AvZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>1. Try to lift the air cleaner from its mounts - the can will lift if
>one of the rubber mounts is broken. These are about $10 each at the
>local stealer but cheaper on line.
I mention this from time to time but if you add a fourth mount on the
air cleaner so a 1/2" bit of rubber sits between the cleaner and valve
cover, then they stop breaking. Which they did a lot before.

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Bill Pelka - 19 Jun 2006 16:09 GMT
Looking for the root cause? Check out your motor mounts. The shaking will be
bad if the mounts are worn out. Not too expensive to buy, but a little bit
of a pain to change. At least the first time it was. I have a '84 300D.
Changed the mounts 2 years ago. Been smooth since then. I, too, had a
problem with the air filter mounts. But it hasn't broken since I changed the
mounts.
Bill
> Hi All,
>
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> Thanks,
> Jeff
Richard Sexton - 19 Jun 2006 22:15 GMT
>Looking for the root cause? Check out your motor mounts. The shaking will be
You can get the car to the point where you can nearly balance a dime on it
and that thing still vibrates. It's at a nodal frequency or something.

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Richard Sexton - 19 Jun 2006 21:55 GMT
>Hi All,
>
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>is obviously a root cause somewhere, which caused the old one to break. If
>I raise the RPMs a little (~100 or so) it smoothes out.
Varnish inside the injection pump. Run two cans of octalnitrate
throgh it. "Lubro Moly Diesel Purge" is what I like right now
and I'm 99% certain if you run two cans thourgh it it'll smooth
right out. You don't do this every now and then I take it? You
need to to to clean the gum, varnish and other deporist than tens of
thousands of gallos of gasoline leave on the inside of fuel handling
machinery.
Don't go for any addiaitve in a tank stuff, you haveto run the engine
on this crap for 15 minutes directly, but it's easy and bloody magic
in what it does. Anything with octal nitrate should work, but most stuff
i've sen is stupid expensive and the German Lubro Moly stuff seems
to be the cheapest source at $4 a can or something like that.

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Jeff Warren - 20 Jun 2006 05:19 GMT
>>Hi All,
>>
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> i've sen is stupid expensive and the German Lubro Moly stuff seems
> to be the cheapest source at $4 a can or something like that.
About the only thing I have run through it is B90 a few tanks ago. I ran
about two or three of those tanks through it, but just changed the filters.
I will order me a few cans of Diesel Purge and try that. Thanks,
Jeff
Richard Sexton - 21 Jun 2006 01:39 GMT
>About the only thing I have run through it is B90 a few tanks ago. I ran
>about two or three of those tanks through it, but just changed the filters.
>I will order me a few cans of Diesel Purge and try that. Thanks,
(tom waits vioce) get a case.
you'll use two cans right there and if your engine is half nominal
it'll purr and be so smooth you won't believe it. and now you're out.
lubro moly wants you to do this every 6 months. you'll want to do it
every 3 months. it's that smooth. so try to find a good case price
the stuff is addictive. worse than heroin. people get over heroin
nobody can stop using this stuff once they've tried it.

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