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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / June 2006

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Uncle Vinnie - 27 Jun 2006 11:52 GMT
Tiger, from my previous post... question on the clay bar....

Tiger, I am going to do this this week with a detailer.. will this claybar
ruin the finish????

He tested it, it worked, smoothed the surface but dulled the finish..
but the clear coat looks dulled...hazy...

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Vinnie

Uncle Vinnie - 27 Jun 2006 11:53 GMT
Oops.. refresher...
I have tiny spots of paint overspray on the car.. perhaps from the
street-stripe-painters....!

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Vinnie

> Tiger, from my previous post... question on the clay bar....
>
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> He tested it, it worked, smoothed the surface but dulled the finish..
> but the clear coat looks dulled...hazy...
Tiger - 27 Jun 2006 13:04 GMT
No... it will not ruin the finish if you lube the surface with the bottle it
came with or car wash mix as if you were washing the car... before you use
the claybar...

You see... you need to provide lubricant for the clay bar to slide over the
surface easily. It need that soapy mix to glide over the surface to take out
the imperfections.

Who tested it? What car do they have? How old was the car? You see it all
depends on condition of the paint to begin with... and where did he buy the
clay from? He didn't use the clay that is used to make pottery right? That
is totally different stuff.

In the end, you will need to wax the car... This claybar also takes out any
existing wax if any left on the car.
Uncle Vinnie - 28 Jun 2006 12:52 GMT
Hi, Tiger...

Thank you for the info.. I appreciate it, really...

Here goes:  It was my car we tested it on... 98 ML320,  good finish, now
oversprayed...

I stopped at PepBoys yesterday, got Mother's Gold... the guy there was very
familiar with it and confirmed what you said.. here is what he thinks
happened.. the detail guy who looked at my car and is going to use it,
sprayed the clay not the car.. pepguy things what I am seeing is due to a
dry clay bar... he needs to keep the car lubricated... as you mentioned...
the bar this guy used is blue, btw... mothers is gold... if that matters...

Anyway, that might be the issue.. he's not keeping the car surface
lubricated enough....
which is why I posted....and then pinged!

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B'rgds,

Vinnie

> No... it will not ruin the finish if you lube the surface with the bottle
> it came with or car wash mix as if you were washing the car... before you
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> In the end, you will need to wax the car... This claybar also takes out
> any existing wax if any left on the car.
Tiger - 28 Jun 2006 14:03 GMT
Color doesn't mean a thing... there are several grades of clay bars... body
shop can get all different grades from fine to course.

MotherGold is good... I used them. Even if it is kinda dull now... redoing
the clay will fix it up. Like I said, must be fully lubricated and work back
and forth... don't by shy rubbing it...

It won't scratch... The rule is this, you must make sure no dirt on car...
you must kneed the clay bar to expose clean surface ever so often... just
look at it... if it look dirty, kneed it.... clean clay will come out. Don't
ever drop that thing on the ground.

I suspect the guy didn't kneed it... so he grabbed some dirt or the
overspray and kept rubbing your car with it. Basically, he doesn't know what
he was doing. MotherGold instruction is very clear on this subject.
Uncle Vinnie - 28 Jun 2006 15:28 GMT
Thanks Tiger.. that's what I thought...

bottom line, you knead to listen to your mother...!

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B'rgds,

Vinnie

> Color doesn't mean a thing... there are several grades of clay bars...
> body shop can get all different grades from fine to course.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> overspray and kept rubbing your car with it. Basically, he doesn't know
> what he was doing. MotherGold instruction is very clear on this subject.
James O'Riley - 27 Jun 2006 15:10 GMT
> Tiger, from my previous post... question on the clay bar....
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> He tested it, it worked, smoothed the surface but dulled the finish..
> but the clear coat looks dulled...hazy...

Personally I'm still using a product from my Porsche days called P21S.
It's a very fine rubbing compound that comes in a tube. I've never had
any trouble with it dulling any surface. The tube contains the wording,
"Multi-Surface Finish Restorer".  If you Google for it you'll get lots
of hits, including some Forums where you may learn more about it.
Uncle Vinnie - 28 Jun 2006 12:53 GMT
Thank you Jim... I am off to Google it right now!

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B'rgds,

Vinnie

>> Tiger, from my previous post... question on the clay bar....
>>
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> "Multi-Surface Finish Restorer".  If you Google for it you'll get lots of
> hits, including some Forums where you may learn more about it.

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