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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / July 2006

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rwh - 04 Jul 2006 15:32 GMT
Brakes seem strage- on depressing the brake pedal there is an
oscillation/vibration  sense- it improves if I power wash the front
wheels...does wheel cleaner or tire polish cause brake dust to cake inside
the caliper?
Tiger - 04 Jul 2006 16:05 GMT
Maybe you just need wheel balancing to begin with.
James O'Riley - 04 Jul 2006 17:21 GMT
> Maybe you just need wheel balancing to begin with.

Hey Tiger, what would cause the front brakes to be dustier than the rear?  Wrong pads?

What pads would you suggest that stop good and yet aren't nearly as dusty?

I used to use the splintered metallic brake pads on my Porsches.  Are they recommended or would it wear the rotators too fast?

Thanks for all your help here,
James
Alan Mudd - 04 Jul 2006 18:17 GMT
I just thought that was down to the brake bias be heavily in favour of the
front brakes rather than any particular pad material.

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>> Maybe you just need wheel balancing to begin with.
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> Thanks for all your help here,
> James
Tiger - 04 Jul 2006 21:51 GMT
It is TUV law that requires front brake pads to include graphite for better
braking quality... hence the black dust. Buying other brands will reduce
that or eliminate the dust.
David J - 04 Jul 2006 22:22 GMT
>It is TUV law that requires front brake pads to include graphite for better
>braking quality... hence the black dust. Buying other brands will reduce
>that or eliminate the dust.

So that's what is making my nice alloys so dirty even in perfectly dry
weather....

David
James O'Riley - 05 Jul 2006 03:04 GMT
>> It is TUV law that requires front brake pads to include graphite for better
>> braking quality... hence the black dust. Buying other brands will reduce
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>
> David

Hmmm...but does it apply to those of us in NA?  I googled but didn't find anything about it.
Tiger - 05 Jul 2006 05:24 GMT
Yep because the car is made in Germany!
James O'Riley - 05 Jul 2006 14:15 GMT
> Yep because the car is made in Germany!

If I understand correctly it was built in Birmingham, Alabama's assembly plant, otherwise my Road Service wouldn't have been any good.  But further searching found  http://tinyurl.com/jc59s . In that PDF file a footnote shows:

"The Chrysler assembly plants are coded as domestic, whereas the Mercedes assembly plant in Alabama is coded as foreign."

So that explains why the Road Service is honored here in the USA. I then assume that those sold in Canada are shipped over from Germany and they don't have the lifetime service we enjoy. :-)
jdoe - 05 Jul 2006 16:21 GMT
>> Yep because the car is made in Germany!
>>
>If I understand correctly it was built in Birmingham, Alabama's assembly plant, otherwise my Road Service wouldn't have been any good.  But further searching found  http://tinyurl.com/jc59s . In that PDF file a footnote shows:

I don't think any e  classes are made in the US, MLs come from there
James O'Riley - 05 Jul 2006 16:38 GMT
>>> Yep because the car is made in Germany!
>>>
>> If I understand correctly it was built in Birmingham, Alabama's assembly plant, otherwise my Road Service wouldn't have been any good.  But further searching found  http://tinyurl.com/jc59s . In that PDF file a footnote shows:
>
> I don't think any e  classes are made in the US, MLs come from there

Then how could I have gotten free Roadside Assistance? There's something here I don't understand.  Even the dealer tells me that's the requirements and I've used it once with no charge.
jdoe - 05 Jul 2006 16:44 GMT
>>>> Yep because the car is made in Germany!
>>>>
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>
>Then how could I have gotten free Roadside Assistance? There's something here I don't understand.  Even the dealer tells me that's the requirements and I've used it once with no charge.

You and/or your dealer are very confused because ,and I don't know
when it started, any mb sold in the US, regardless of where it was
built, gets roadside assistance and this has been the case for at
least the last 15 years or so
Tiger - 05 Jul 2006 17:50 GMT
Ditto.... roadside assistance is free to all MB owner... used or new...
doesn't matter which owner you are... everyone who owns MB gets free
roadside assistance.

As for where it is made... it doesn't matter! MB is German... period.
James O'Riley - 06 Jul 2006 12:36 GMT
> Ditto.... roadside assistance is free to all MB owner... used or new...
> doesn't matter which owner you are... everyone who owns MB gets free
> roadside assistance.
>
> As for where it is made... it doesn't matter! MB is German... period.

I guess you're right Tiger, I couldn't find my erroneous information on the Internet, and the dealer said he couldn't remember saying it to me.  Blame it on old age, poor memory and whatever else I have.  :-D
Richard Sexton - 06 Jul 2006 18:34 GMT
>> Yep because the car is made in Germany!
>>
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>So that explains why the Road Service is honored here in the USA. I then assume that those sold in Canada are
>shipped over from Germany and they don't have the lifetime service we enjoy. :-)

Pads are cheaper than rotors, so they're sacrificed. That's why they have graphite in
them, to keep the rotors alive longer.

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Buzby - 05 Jul 2006 10:41 GMT
> Brakes seem strage- on depressing the brake pedal there is an
> oscillation/vibration  sense- it improves if I power wash the front
> wheels...does wheel cleaner or tire polish cause brake dust to cake inside
> the caliper?

I suspect a warped disk (rotor) may be the culprit
 
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