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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2006Does anybody like roundabouts?
In my area roundabouts are rare but when I venture to areas that have them I find them very difficult - especially when they are used for fairly fast traffic. Does anybody actually like them or are they just used because they have always been used? ############################ http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=17527830&me thod=full&siteid=50003&headline=man--30--injured-as-van-overturns-name_page.html Man, 30, injured as van overturns Aug 8 2006 A 30-YEAR-OLD Coventry man was taken to hospital after the vehicle he was travelling in overturned on a Warwickshire road. The accident, which involved a white Mercedes Sprinter van, happened near a roundabout in Oversley Green, Alcester, on Friday afternoon. The injured man was a passenger in the van, which was travelling from Evesham toward Alcester, when the driver decided to change exit lane on the roundabout and lost control of the vehicle. The passenger was taken to the Alexandra Hospital in Redditch and later transferred to Selly Oak in Birmingham for surgery. Police are appealing for information and would like to hear from anyone who saw the accident. . Living in the UK I love them. In some cases they are used to sort out rights of way at an intersection as we don't have a general "priority from the right (or left)" rule. Great also for dealing with indecision. Go round and round until you decide where you want to get off. DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > In my area roundabouts are rare but when I > venture to areas that have them I find them [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > . >In my area roundabouts are rare but when I >venture to areas that have them I find them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Does anybody actually like them or are they >just used because they have always been used? You may just want to reconsider your possible trip to Canada. We are in the process of implementing them big time here in SW Ontario... great advancement in traffic management, saves both in brakes and fuel since no one has to come to a complete stop.... mind you my wife decided to go clock- wise :-) I'm glad I wasn't in the car cheers, guenter And...?... ;-) DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] .... mind you my wife decided to go clock- > wise :-) I'm glad I wasn't in the car > > cheers, guenter As I understand it much honking and slapping of the forhead and fist in the folded elbow by the other drivers facing her head on .... :-) cheers, guenter >And...?... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> cheers, guenter Of course over here in the colonies we don't have very many. And here in SC - well - there are a couple on Hilton Head Island. But boy have they been screwed up!!!!!! The city fathers of Hilton Head have poured more cement separators into them than exist as curbs on all the rest of the island. They regulate which lane you can go into depending on which exit you want to take. And these are only for 4 way intesections!!!! So if you want a good laugh, come on down to Hilton Head Island. And do bring some green stuff to throw around. And do leave your radar detector up and running because they do speed trap on the island. But it is getting SO crowded that I am about to give up and not go there any more. mcbrue roundaboutrememberingly under the bridge in the trailer down by the river 96 S420 mcbrue, what happened to your accent?? cp > Of course over here in the colonies we don't have very many. And here > in SC - well - there are a couple on Hilton Head Island. But boy have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > 96 S420 >As I understand it much honking and slapping of the forhead and fist in the >folded elbow by the other drivers facing her head on .... :-) So... she wanted to see what it would be like to drive in Paris or Rome, is that it?  SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net Arc de Triomphe, whooooooooo! There you really have to know what you're doing, especially in a nice shiny new benz =) cp >>As I understand it much honking and slapping of the forhead and fist in the >>folded elbow by the other drivers facing her head on .... :-) > > So... she wanted to see what it would be like to drive in Paris or Rome, > is that it? Good opportunity to bring in my OT Q & A: Q: Why do the French car manufacturers continue to build big cars. (Background note: They are much better at small models.) A: French government ministers can't afford to be seen getting and out of German Mercedes-Benzes. DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > Arc de Triomphe, whooooooooo! There you really have to know what you're > doing, especially in a nice shiny new benz =) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> So... she wanted to see what it would be like to drive in Paris or Rome, >> is that it? [...] ha! =) > Good opportunity to bring in my OT Q & A: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> > [...] Funny drivers you've got...Wouldn't happen over here... DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > As I understand it much honking and slapping of the forhead and fist in > the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> >>> cheers, guenter Have anyone tried the huge Arc d' Triomphe roundabout in Paris and survived unscathed and to tell a tale or two? I sat on a bench and observed the traffic for half an hour. Sheer madness! The vehicles entering the roundabout have a right-of-the-way, meaning all of traffic on the roundabout must stop or yield to the incoming traffic. Did I mention how huge the roundabout is? That must be the ultimate extreme challenge! > In my area roundabouts are rare but when I > venture to areas that have them I find them [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > . > Have anyone tried the huge Arc d' Triomphe roundabout in Paris and > survived unscathed and to tell a tale or two? I sat on a bench and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > mention how huge the roundabout is? That must be the ultimate extreme > challenge! Ive driven there a couple of times. It's not as insane as it looks like. Actually, it's letting the traffic through quite smoothly imho :) -- Rien It's most of the funny NAs who don't understand roundabouts...:-) Also, lots of poeple unaware of the general "yield to the right" rule when nothing else is signposted. In Britain we don't have such a rule since every intersection etc is marked, somehow. With roundabouts we have the general rule that traffic on roundabout has priority (local derogation of EU rule, done by signposting...) DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- >> Have anyone tried the huge Arc d' Triomphe roundabout in Paris and >> survived unscathed and to tell a tale or two? I sat on a bench and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Rien Strictly it is actually "give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights" http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/17.htm#160 DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > It's most of the funny NAs who don't understand roundabouts...:-) > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> -- >> Rien Your analysis matches my experience. I am North American, I have no idea what the rules are for roundabouts and in England I am already excessively preccupied with trying to drive on the wrong side of the road then I run into a roundabout whose rules I do not know and then I am speeding around in circles trying to figure out which sign which just whizzed by is correct for the right exit which just whizzed by and if I miss it then I just keep going around until I pick it out but if I pick the wrong one then I am off in the wrong direction for who knows how long all the while driving on the wrong side of the road and trying to not get in an accident. Next time I will have a driver. . > Strictly it is actually "give priority to traffic approaching from your > right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights" [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> -- > >> Rien Are we being polemical here? Or do you need the lecture about the Romans, swords and Napoleon again? ;-) DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > on the wrong side [...] No polemics, this was my actual experience. Rights and wrong can be relative as well as absolute. Some things are always right or always wrong. Some things are right or wrong depending on the viewpoint. I would love to hear about the Romans, swords and Napoleon, although I think that those who made their names through conquest receive excessive adulation. . > Are we being polemical here? Or do you need the lecture about the Romans, > swords and Napoleon again? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > on the wrong side > [...] OM schrieb: > Have anyone tried the huge Arc d' Triomphe roundabout in Paris and > survived unscathed and to tell a tale or two? I sat on a bench and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > mention how huge the roundabout is? That must be the ultimate extreme > challenge! To find more of ultimate drivers challenges (at least for left hand drivers) google for magic roundabout england http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swindon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Swindon_Magic_Roundabout_eng.png http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm SignatureRoland Franzius Here in NJ USA roundabouts (we call them traffic circles) were common from 1950's on, until recently. About 10 years ago they started removing them during upgrading and replacing them with regular intersections with traffic lights. Many of them are already gone. The problem is, they work well if people know the rules and are curteous. Unfortunately, around the NYC area, everyone drives like complete jerks. So, the traffic circles result in more accidents. >Here in NJ USA roundabouts (we call them traffic circles) were common >from 1950's on, until recently. About 10 years ago they started [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >curteous. Unfortunately, around the NYC area, everyone drives like >complete jerks. So, the traffic circles result in more accidents. yes the drivers around NYC are inconsiderate boobs. the problem with the circles in NJ are caused by the high volume of traffic, circles work well with lighter levels of traffic and seem to not work well when they get choked by high levels of traffic I think this is because they are not large enough to flow the traffic through in an efficient manner. I know of one light traffic area in NJ where they are planning to put a round about in to replace a traditional intersection. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swindon > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Swindon_Magic_Roundabout_eng.png > > http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm Awesome!! cp I tried it four times, saw two bikes get hit, never seen anything so busy, ALL the (unmarked) lanes were full and traffic moving fast cp > Have anyone tried the huge Arc d' Triomphe roundabout in Paris and survived unscathed and to tell a tale or two? I sat on a bench > and observed the traffic for half an hour. Sheer madness! The vehicles entering the roundabout have a right-of-the-way, meaning [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> . I love them, except that here in Canada we have ignorant untrained drivers which negates any benefits, which are considerable with good drivers. cp > In my area roundabouts are rare but when I > venture to areas that have them I find them [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > . >I love them, except that here in Canada we have ignorant untrained drivers which negates any benefits, which are >considerable with good drivers. There's one in Long Beach. One. There's also a kilometers sign on Crenshaw between Palos Verdes and Torrance. Odd little bits of Europe in California. SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net Can't be a legally valid sign, surely? DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] There's also a kilometers sign on Crenshaw [...] >Can't be a legally valid sign, surely? Beats me, it was accurate. There's so many fancy expsnive Euro cars there maybe it's some sort of a joke. No idea... SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net Richard Sexton schrieb: >> I love them, except that here in Canada we have ignorant untrained drivers which negates any benefits, which are >> considerable with good drivers. > > There's one in Long Beach. One. There's also a kilometers sign on Crenshaw between Palos Verdes > and Torrance. Odd little bits of Europe in California. I read somewhere that south of Phoenix all signs are metric. Courtesy to mexican drivers. See eg http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/signs/ SignatureRoland Franzius > In my area roundabouts are rare but when I > venture to areas that have them I find them [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > . Here's another, a freind of mine saw this the other day, we can't find the news story now. IIt was on the way from Rushden to Northampton. Basically, a lorry took the roundabout too fast, fell over and landed on a VW golf, killing the driver of the car. The driver was pronounced dead at the scene, the driver of the lorry has been released on bail. |
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