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1981 300cd specs? does anyone know about the specs for this car?

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deadlemons666@gmail.com - 10 Aug 2006 06:50 GMT
I am going to buy a 1981 300cd and I cant find any thing out about
them(hp,mpg,SOHC or DOHC) and I found someone that said only 335 of
these cars were made that year so its not so suprising that i cant find
any info..
if any one knows any thing plz let me know
Roland Franzius - 10 Aug 2006 09:11 GMT
deadlemons666@gmail.com schrieb:
> I am going to buy a 1981 300cd and I cant find any thing out about
> them(hp,mpg,SOHC or DOHC) and I found someone that said only 335 of
> these cars were made that year so its not so suprising that i cant find
> any info..
> if any one knows any thing plz let me know

You may find all googling

mercedes benz w123 300 cd american

Sold in the american market only. Came first with the 300D 5 cyl motor,
replaced with the turbo diesel in '81. The very important little
difference was a air intake at the right fender.

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Richard Sexton - 10 Aug 2006 14:48 GMT
>I am going to buy a 1981 300cd and I cant find any thing out about
>them(hp,mpg,SOHC or DOHC) and I found someone that said only 335 of
>these cars were made that year so its not so suprising that i cant find
>any info..
>if any one knows any thing plz let me know

It's a 123 sedan with two doors welded shut. Eevrything else is the same.

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cp - 11 Aug 2006 04:26 GMT
> It's a 123 sedan with two doors welded shut. Eevrything else is the same.

=) not quite; shorter body and LONGER doors.

cp
Richard Sexton - 11 Aug 2006 16:59 GMT
>> It's a 123 sedan with two doors welded shut. Eevrything else is the same.
>
>=) not quite; shorter body and LONGER doors.

Yeah but you get the point. All the mechanicals are standard 123 stuff.

The body work is rare and expensive coupe only stuff.

Nice cars though, but then any two door Mercedes is a nice car.

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cp - 11 Aug 2006 17:23 GMT
And it's quite ridiculous what people are asking for them here in Vancouver. I saw three of them between 13K-15K CAD

cp

>>> It's a 123 sedan with two doors welded shut. Eevrything else is the same.
>>
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>
> Nice cars though, but then any two door Mercedes is a nice car.
deadlemons666@gmail.com - 11 Aug 2006 18:07 GMT
well this one is cheap and its it mint shape so i really got to get it
Richard Sexton - 11 Aug 2006 19:23 GMT
>well this one is cheap and its it mint shape so i really got to get it

Uh-huh. Keep in mind Mercedes rust from the inside out and it may look
reust free but still be not worth fixing. You need to have somebody
FAMILAIR WITH THE MODEL look at it. Then you'll hear the bad news. There's
always bad news. Hows the interior?

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deadlemons666@gmail.com - 11 Aug 2006 20:27 GMT
the interior is in perfect shape and from what i can tell its been
taken care of and covered and garaged when not in use. looked underneth
the back and there was no rust any where but i should look harder when
the lady brings it over for the final test drive.
Richard Sexton - 11 Aug 2006 21:23 GMT
>the interior is in perfect shape and from what i can tell its been
>taken care of and covered and garaged when not in use. looked underneth
>the back and there was no rust any where but i should look harder when
>the lady brings it over for the final test drive.

Sounds promising then. Check the trunk wheelwells, jacking points, the
rear of the front wheelwells behind the tires, rocker panels, floors.

Stick your hand down the back of the rear seat where the back and bottom
part meet. Real clean cars are clean there. If you find old french fries
and dust and dust then it was cleaned up but not always that way.

Check around the rear whidshield outside and in (trunk) for rust. Use a magnet
and search for bondo. You want to make sure it's all metal and not rust repaired.

These cars rusted so badly and are so old now that the idea there's an original
rust free exampleis a bit susepect.

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Martin Joseph - 21 Aug 2006 03:48 GMT
> These cars rusted so badly and are so old now that the idea there's an original
> rust free exampleis a bit susepect.

Depends on where you live and if there is salt involved.  There are
LOTS of rust free examples of these in this area (seattle, WA. USA).
Richard Sexton - 11 Aug 2006 19:22 GMT
>And it's quite ridiculous what people are asking for them here in Vancouver. I saw three of them between 13K-15K CAD

Yeah well, they can ASK.

I know a guy that has two of them. Both were obtained for under a grand. He was offered
one recenly for a dollar, drove out to see it and passed even though there was no
visable rust (but lots in the wriong places, thrashed interior etc).

The 111 coupes are valuable in any condition, not so the 123 coupes. 7-8 TOPS for
a near perfect car. 5K for a really good one 2-3K for an ok one. The rest are parts
acre and usually have no good parts.

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T.G. Lambach - 10 Aug 2006 17:10 GMT
CD model has identical power train to 123 sedan BUT its wheelbase is
about 4" shorter than sedan AND it has less interior headroom than the
sedan.
I don't recall when turbo diesels were introduced to the 123 chassis - 5
cylinder non-turbo made 77 HP, turbo diesel 120 HP.
Some Google work will find its physical dimensions.

This is a nice looking car but the sedan is the one to buy, IMHO.
Geoff Miller - 22 Aug 2006 14:20 GMT
> This is a nice looking car but the sedan is the one to buy, IMHO.

Agreed.  I've owned both, and while the coupe is pretty, it's less
practical.  The car should really be considered a 2+2, not a proper
four-seat automobile.  The reduced length comes out of the rear foot-
well area, making the back seat suitable only for brief occupancy (or
for children).  Legroom was a zero-sum game: when an adult rode in the
back seat, the person in front always had to slide his seat forward in
order to create enough legroom in back -- which only meant insufficient
legroom for the front passenger.

Even apart from that, I find that I prefer sedans over coupes because
of the utility of being able to open the rear door and toss a jacket
onto the back seat, or put a bag or two of groceries, a six-pack of
beer, or a gallon jug of milk in the footwell where it won't slide
around during the drive home.

Geoff

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Richard Sexton - 22 Aug 2006 17:53 GMT
>> This is a nice looking car but the sedan is the one to buy, IMHO.
>
>Agreed.  I've owned both, and while the coupe is pretty, it's less
>practical.  The car should really be considered a 2+2, not a proper
>four-seat automobile.  The reduced length comes out of the rear foot-

I dunno about the newer coupes but the older ones are like this
too. THe back seats are good for, what P.J. O'Rourke once descibed
as "thalidamide amputees".

But I like coupes. Sexy but impractical. Just like... uh never mind.

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Karl - 11 Aug 2006 03:18 GMT
I assume you are in the USA?  Someone is blowing smoke up your chimney..... maybe 335 are left.
757 were sold in the US in 1981.
Suggest retail price: $29,231.
Engine: 3.0 liter, 5 cyl naturally aspirated diesel, single overhead cam.
83 hp @ 4200 rpm, 120 lb.-ft. @ 2400 rpm. Compression: 21.0:1
Transmission: 4 speed auto
Wheelbase: 106.7 in.
Weight: 3420 lb.
Fuel tank: 21.1 gal.

(turbo's came in the USA in the 123 body in 1981 in the station wagon and 1982 in the sedan and
coupe)

> I am going to buy a 1981 300cd and I cant find any thing out about
> them(hp,mpg,SOHC or DOHC) and I found someone that said only 335 of
> these cars were made that year so its not so suprising that i cant find
> any info..
> if any one knows any thing plz let me know
Martin Joseph - 21 Aug 2006 03:50 GMT
> I assume you are in the USA?  Someone is blowing smoke up your
> chimney..... maybe 335 are left.
> 757 were sold in the US in 1981.

OK, then maybe there aren't "LOTS" of good examples of these around
these parts.

LOL.
 
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