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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2006

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Oil change using hand pump suction device

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gator_mech - 16 Aug 2006 14:58 GMT
I saw a hand pump suction device advertised ($65) on the Delta Airlines Sky
Mall magazine, for oil changes. Accessing the drain plug for my E300TD is a
bit of a hassle. I am tempted to use this hand pump to suck the oil out of
the dip stick tube. Is this recommended? The ad claims MB mechanics use it.

thanks-Raj
me - 16 Aug 2006 15:35 GMT
>I saw a hand pump suction device advertised ($65) on the Delta
>Airlines Sky
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> thanks-Raj

Raj,

I use one on all of my vehicles. It is a superior method (cleaner) and
I actually think it gets more of the old oil out. If you have one that
pumps oil as well as suctioning oil, it makes it a bit easier to
recycle the oil into used jugs (IMO).

The important thing to remember is that the oil should be warm to
maximize the process.
T.G. Lambach - 16 Aug 2006 16:46 GMT
Topsider, about $45 - $50
Tiger - 16 Aug 2006 16:52 GMT
Skymall magazine is great for seeing new stuff... but the price is crazy.
You can shop for cheaper source for same profuct.

On the other hand, I bought Harbor Freight's pneumatic version... it uses
air compressor to suck out the oil into a 6 gallon steel container. I
haven't used it but it is well built. They also got a copy cat version of
the pump for like $25... which holds 10 quarts.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45403

I got this one when on sale... like $90 or so...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=46149
Richard Sexton - 16 Aug 2006 18:11 GMT
>Skymall magazine is great for seeing new stuff... but the price is crazy.
>You can shop for cheaper source for same profuct.
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>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=46149

And then there's he $2 DIY versin (which actually works)

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trader4@optonline.net - 16 Aug 2006 19:20 GMT
If I intended to do oil changes regularly this way, I'd get the type
that comes with a 12V DC pump mounted to the top of a 5 gallon bucket.
They are sold at marine supply shops for about $150.    It has clip
leads that you attach to the battery.  I've used this type as well as
the Topsider and IMO, it's well worth the extra money for the
simplicity and convenience.

The Topsider U pump type has a warning printed right on the top that
says not to use your foot to steady it while pumping, which of course
is the natural thing to do.   Reason is, the can is so flimsy that if
you press on it while under vacuum, it will collapse.  Been there, done
that!
gator_mech - 16 Aug 2006 19:20 GMT
Thanks much for all the information. I will get a pump soon.

Raj

> Skymall magazine is great for seeing new stuff... but the price is crazy.
> You can shop for cheaper source for same profuct.
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> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=46149
luigi966 - 30 Sep 2006 19:22 GMT
I'm looking at gettting a pump for my car, and came across some forums which
insisted that topside pumps don't get the sludge out of the sump as well as a
proper oil change.  This was the most recent forum I found with information
on the subject though, and the only one that recommended these devices as a
regular alternative to a traditional oil change.

Despite the comments I've found, I'm tempted to buy a pump.  I'd make sure to
do an ail flush every time I change, to get as much of the sludge out as
possible.  The other option of course, is to alternate self-change and
professional change (I live in an apartment, and don't have anywhere to put
my car on jackstands to change the oil from underneath myself), maybe with a
2:1 or 3:1 ratio.  Am I nuts?

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