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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2006

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Where to Buy a Used MB

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MK - 24 Aug 2006 12:45 GMT
Hi,

I live in Madison, WI.  I've been watching ads in the Madison and
Milwaukee areas, and have told family and friends I am looking for an
early '80 MB 300D or 240D.

I've also been watching eBay and Autotrader.  Any other web sites worth
checking into?  I amopen to ideas.

Thanks!

Mark
T.G. Lambach - 24 Aug 2006 17:55 GMT
Buy a car, don't be sold a car. Try to buy a car from its original owner
not some old dog that's had multiple owners, the last three of which
didn't maintain it.

You're looking for a twenty five year old car so look for elderly owners.

If I were you I'd look at ebay only as a price guide, then I'd read the
Chicago papers for a for sale by owner car being sold by a retiree or
widow. Be patient, it's optional. If you know of some upscale retirement
communities try to post a flyer in their mail room - lots of people have
cars but no longer drive much and don't want the bother of selling their
car so it stays and stays. Your flyer is their opportunity to act.

And distance doesn't lend enchantment - when it comes to cars; buy
nearby, not in Florida or Arizona or California just to name some
"enchantment". This old car will cost you between $1000 and $2500
depending on its condition so finding taking a old car on a big road
trip may become an expensive "adventure".
Richard Sexton - 24 Aug 2006 20:53 GMT
>Buy a car, don't be sold a car. Try to buy a car from its original owner
>not some old dog that's had multiple owners, the last three of which
>didn't maintain it.

The importance of this cannot be overstated.

All older cars need some work done to them, that's a given. The
trick is to find ones that need cheap or easy work done to them.

Hence the importance of getting somebody who KNOWS THE CAR
look at them as they're non-intuitive.

FOr example if you're looking at two 126 diesels and one has
cloudy windows at the rear bottom corners and one won't go
into gear in first or second but is ok in third and up?

The first one is going to be a rusrt disaster while the second
one is a $100 2 hour easy fix. But this is non-intuitive.

These can be quirky cars that often bite the uniniated the first
time round.

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The Spanish Inquisition - 24 Aug 2006 21:15 GMT
> FOr example if you're looking at two 126 diesels and one has
> cloudy windows at the rear bottom corners and one won't go
> into gear in first or second but is ok in third and up?
>
> The first one is going to be a rusrt disaster while the second
> one is a $100 2 hour easy fix. But this is non-intuitive.

My '87 w124 had white cloudy spots in the lower left corner of the
windshield. I had it replaced just yesterday, because a rock had cracked
it. The window guy told me that the white spots would be because of
rust, before he started (he had worked at an MB place and seen this
before). When the windshield was off there was no rust at all, nowhere,
to his and my surprise. Also, the window was the original factory fitted
one and it was really hard to get off. The 'glue' seemed to have gotten
hard.

So, the white stuff apparently isn't *always* indicative of rust.

On another note: He claimed that it was necessary to remove the wiper
before taking off the windshield, because the procedure was likely to
damage the wiper.

Ximinez
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Geoff Miller - 24 Aug 2006 22:28 GMT
[windows]

> So, the white stuff apparently isn't *always* indicative of rust.

My '82 300CD had some of that in the lower-left corner of its rear
window.  I figured it was delamination caused by the flexing of the
pillarless, two-door body.  This was a California car, so rust was
unlikely.

Geoff

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Richard Sexton - 24 Aug 2006 23:25 GMT
>> So, the white stuff apparently isn't *always* indicative of rust.
>
>My '82 300CD had some of that in the lower-left corner of its rear
>window.  I figured it was delamination caused by the flexing of the
>pillarless, two-door body.  This was a California car, so rust was
>unlikely.

It's casued by moisture getting in between the laminate layers. It
usually always means rust - it does mean water is getting in there
somewhere. It's not a huge deal on the front but is a BIG deal on the
back. A few years after it shows up you can expect your trunk
and around the taillight to start going. It's all downhill from there.

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Geoff Miller - 25 Aug 2006 04:26 GMT
[cloudy patch in lower corner of 300CD rear window]

> A few years after it shows up you can expect your trunk and
> around the taillight to start going. It's all downhill from
> there.

No biggie; I sold the car a year ago.  And since I didn't know
this at the time, my conscience is clear.

Geoff

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Richard Sexton - 24 Aug 2006 23:23 GMT
Oops, I meant the REAR glass, not the front.

>> FOr example if you're looking at two 126 diesels and one has
>> cloudy windows at the rear bottom corners and one won't go
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>
>Ximinez

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The Spanish Inquisition - 25 Aug 2006 06:56 GMT
> Oops, I meant the REAR glass, not the front.

OK, I'll keep that in mind when I ever by another one ;)

Ximinez
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Duane - 25 Aug 2006 21:59 GMT
I found our 300d on http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/index.php

There is a lot of good info on that sight.

Duane

>> Oops, I meant the REAR glass, not the front.
>
> OK, I'll keep that in mind when I ever by another one ;)
>
> Ximinez
Geoff Miller - 25 Aug 2006 04:54 GMT
> I've also been watching eBay and Autotrader.  Any other web
> sites worth checking into?  I am open to ideas.

You might try cars.com.  The ads from a number of newspapers are
repeated there, but they're not the only ads they feature.

Also, Google for "300D for sale," "240D for sale," etc.

Geoff

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