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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2006

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1976 280E leaking Water

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280EW123 - 06 Sep 2006 12:51 GMT
Hi,
I have a recently purchased 280E 1976 RHD. I noticed after some heavy
rain (I live in Ireland so this will be a regualr occurance) that the
rear passenger footwell has about an inch of water in it.
I have read some previous threads on this and I have been checking
through the suggestions made.

My question is, should there be a gasket or seal around the windscreen
wiper mechanism where it protrudes from under the bonnet. On my car one
of the arms does have a seal and the other doesn't.

Thanks
graham
Dori A Schmetterling - 06 Sep 2006 15:17 GMT
Oh, I don't know... I have seen sunshine in Ireland...

...he said unhelpfully...

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> Hi,

some heavy
> rain (I live in Ireland so this will be a regualr occurance)
>[...]

> Thanks
> graham
280EW123 - 06 Sep 2006 17:34 GMT
> Oh, I don't know... I have seen sunshine in Ireland...
>
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> > Thanks
> > graham

Me too, unfortunately it was about 2 months ago and it's not likely to
be seen again until next year. It used to be that the only thing that
bothered me about the car was how often I have to go to the petrol
station, now I've got a sub carpet aquarium at the back of my mind
too!!!
T.G. Lambach - 06 Sep 2006 17:42 GMT
If it has a "sunroof" (even in Ireland) a steel drain pipe may have
rusted through.
ws - 06 Sep 2006 17:54 GMT
> Hi,
> I have a recently purchased 280E 1976 RHD. I noticed after some heavy
> rain (I live in Ireland so this will be a regualr occurance) that the
> rear passenger footwell has about an inch of water in it.
> I have read some previous threads on this and I have been checking
> through the suggestions made.

Actually, with an inch of water, and the fact that the car is about 30
years old, I would be more worried about large pockets of rust.

Get the carpets out, dry them out and drive around without them until
you find the leak.

> My question is, should there be a gasket or seal around the windscreen
> wiper mechanism where it protrudes from under the bonnet. On my car one
> of the arms does have a seal and the other doesn't.

Well, there should be, but I'm working from memory, as alas, the 123 our
family had is no more. (Chassis rust around the rear suspension)

I *did* check under the air intake grille after we bought the car just
to make sure water wasn't entering from there. The grille is held in
place with plastic inserts, I believe. Do make sure the drains, which
empty into the engine compartment aren't clogged.

Another place to check is under the battery tray, which does tend to
corrode. It is also eventually where I found the leak on mine.

Windscreen seals may be a culprit too, and may be a sign if the glass
look cloudy around the lower edges.

> Thanks
> graham

You're welcome.

Do check out http://www.w123.net The people there should be a great help
in tracking down your leak. Hopefully, you did read their buying guide?

Cheers,
ws
280EW123 - 07 Sep 2006 09:40 GMT
> > Hi,
> > I have a recently purchased 280E 1976 RHD. I noticed after some heavy
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> Cheers,
> ws

WS,
The guy I bought it from kept it garaged so it was bone dry when I
bought it and it was apparently restored some time in the 90's. It's
certainly looks like at least part of the floor was taken out and
welded.  I'm not sure who mentioned the cloudy glass but there is some
clouding around the bottom of the windscreen.
Buying Guide...... that would imply some degree of forethought, this
was love at first sight.
The Spanish Inquisition - 07 Sep 2006 09:49 GMT
> welded.  I'm not sure who mentioned the cloudy glass but there is some
> clouding around the bottom of the windscreen.

That's not guaranteed to be a rust problem. Mine was cloudy too but when
I had it replaced there were no signs of rust underneath ('87 w124).

Ximinez
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