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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2006

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jimcollins123 - 13 Sep 2006 17:20 GMT
Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
seem to work, neither does the light that would normally illuminate the
gear lever. The reostat makes no difference and there is a warning lamp
on the dash for a burned out bulb. I think that the light is telling me
that an exterior lamp bulb has gone and it is nothing to do with the
dash board/gear stick. It only comes on when the head or side lights
are on.
Any assistance gratefully received.
Jim
Roland Franzius - 13 Sep 2006 17:36 GMT
jimcollins123 schrieb:
> Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
> seem to work, neither does the light that would normally illuminate the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> are on.
> Any assistance gratefully received.

Probably the rear plate lamps. Burned through and the long wire inside
makes a short cut. Took me and some mechanics about three weeks to find
out. Its difficult to locate because the plate lamps are going twice
about the light switch.
They are fused together with the dash lamps.

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jimcollins123 - 13 Sep 2006 18:23 GMT
> jimcollins123 schrieb:
> > Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Roland Franzius

Roland
Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
Thanks
Jim
Roland Franzius - 14 Sep 2006 09:18 GMT
jimcollins123 schrieb:

>> jimcollins123 schrieb:
>>> Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> about the light switch.
>> They are fused together with the dash lamps.

> Roland
> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?

Its easier to check the plate lamps first.

To get to the dashboard lamps yo have to remove the speedometer unit and
that depends on type. In the C class without variable steering wheel it
means to remove the air bag and the complete steering wheel first.

One gets the unit pulling with two special clamps. They are inserted
between dashboard and speedometer at the fixing rubber ring.

--

Roland Franzius
Martin Joseph - 15 Sep 2006 07:57 GMT
>> Roland
>> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
>
> Its easier to check the plate lamps first.

Pearls before swine apparently.
jimcollins123 - 15 Sep 2006 23:25 GMT
> >> Roland
> >> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
> >
> > Its easier to check the plate lamps first.
>
> Pearls before swine apparently.

I got a chance to look at the dash today and I was expecting to
see a similar push fit to my 1981 W107 with gaps in the side to put the
keys/hooks but instead I am confronted a sloping piece of plexiglass to
cut reflected glare and no visible way in. Do I go in from underneath?
This is a UK car which may have confused.
Thanks
Jim
Richard Sexton - 17 Sep 2006 13:45 GMT
>> >> Roland
>> >> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>cut reflected glare and no visible way in. Do I go in from underneath?
>This is a UK car which may have confused.

The two holes are on the outer size of the dask cluster bezel about 1/3 the way up from
the bottom.

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Wagenstrudl - 21 Sep 2006 22:52 GMT
> >> >> Roland
> >> >> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> The two holes are on the outer size of the dask cluster bezel about 1/3 the way up from
> the bottom.

Hi there,
I have seen a number of accounts on various forums (fora if you did
Latin at school) about where to insert the hooks to remove the
instrument cluster and they are all different and none of them work on
my 93 sl 320. Before I pull the whole front end of the car into my lap,
I would really love it if someone could tell me where exactly to insert
the hooks (humour is great, but not now) on my dash to get my
instrument cluster out.
Many thanks,
Ellis
Richard Sexton - 22 Sep 2006 00:01 GMT
>I have seen a number of accounts on various forums (fora if you did
>Latin at school) about where to insert the hooks to remove the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>the hooks (humour is great, but not now) on my dash to get my
>instrument cluster out.

Get a strong flashlight and look hard. There's a slight notch in the
sides where you're supposed to insert the hooks. It's pretty hard to find
unless you know where it is. Strong light helps. You can always push it
out from behind instead...

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Roland Franzius - 22 Sep 2006 08:07 GMT
Wagenstrudl schrieb:

>>>>>> Roland
>>>>>> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> the hooks (humour is great, but not now) on my dash to get my
> instrument cluster out.

Remove the dash cover in the foot room and press it from backwards.
Means to hang head down feet up for some time. Its easier then to remove
all cables and oil pressure hose in advance. Close the oil hose and the
corresponding hole of the instrument and dont turn the engine while it
is removed.

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Wagenstrudl - 22 Sep 2006 09:33 GMT
Thanks guys,
I'll do some handstands and go from behind, sounds safer and maybe more
fun.

> Wagenstrudl schrieb:
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> corresponding hole of the instrument and dont turn the engine while it
> is removed.
jimcollins123 - 15 Sep 2006 23:27 GMT
> >> Roland
> >> Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
> >
> > Its easier to check the plate lamps first.
>
> Pearls before swine apparently.

I got a chance to look at the dash today and I was expecting to
see a similar push fit to my 1981 W107 with gaps in the side to put the
keys/hooks but instead I am confronted a sloping piece of plexiglass to
cut reflected glare and no visible way in. Do I go in from underneath?
This is a UK car which may have confused.
Thanks
Jim
jimcollins123 - 13 Sep 2006 18:24 GMT
> jimcollins123 schrieb:
> > Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Roland Franzius

Roland
Thanks, do you know how I can access the bulbs in the dash?
Thanks
Jim
Richard Sexton - 13 Sep 2006 21:50 GMT
>Hi, the lights in the instrument cluster on my 1987 W126 300SE do not
>seem to work, neither does the light that would normally illuminate the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>dash board/gear stick. It only comes on when the head or side lights
>are on.

The warning lamp is not related to the dash light failure. The latter
is almost certainly caused by the rheostat as all the electricity
for the dash and gear lights must go through it (to be dimmable)
and when (not if) they fail all the lights stop working.

The rheostat is not particularly cheap but if you are halfway handy
you might be able to repair it. I fixed mine (AFTER buying a new one,
doh). You have to pull the cluster to get it out and you probably
ought to replace all the bulns as long as you're in there given the
age - they're gonna be pretty dim by now. These bukbs are not ones
you're gonna find in autozone but aren't expensive at the dealers.

Instructions are here:

    http://articles.mbz.org/instrument/renew/
    http://articles.mbz.org/instrument/dimmer/
    http://articles.mbz.org/instrument/

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