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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2006

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Tranny Fluid for 1990 560 SEC

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GM - 24 Sep 2006 09:31 GMT
I would really appreciate answers to 3 questions

1) How do you check the Automatic Trans Fluid level?
2) How do you add fluid?
3) Is there a specific ATF fluid for this tranny ?

All responses are greatly appreciated

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Alan Mudd - 24 Sep 2006 18:32 GMT
1/ Selector lever in park have the engine running for 1-2 minutes then check
level by releasing the black safety catch under the red cap and pull out the
dip stick.

2/add fluid in through the filler neck using a fine filtered funnel.

3/ Manual states MB Auto trans fluid (doesn't state alternatives or industry
standard ratings.)

Alan M
Richard Sexton - 24 Sep 2006 19:05 GMT
>I would really appreciate answers to 3 questions
>
>1) How do you check the Automatic Trans Fluid level?

In park on LEVEL gruond with the car FULLY warmed up, engine running. Find the trans fluid
cap - it's clipped to hold it closed, uclip it. Pull the dipstick out
and wipe it with your CLEAN FINGERS - NOT a rag which might introduce lint
into the tranny which might wreck it. Wipe your fingers with a clean lint free
cloth. Put the dipstick back in then pull it out and look at the level. The fluid
should be red, bot brown and if it smell burned, it is, replace it at once.

Overfilling is as bad as underfilling.

>2) How do you add fluid?

Through the dipstick tube with a CLEAN funnel.

>3) Is there a specific ATF fluid for this tranny ?

Standard GM type (NOT Ford type) transmission fluid. Dexron III.

Add fluid if required. With the brake on more the gear selector through
each ger for a second or two, then measure the level again. If you've added
too much you HAVE to remove this. The easiest way is with some small
diameter vinyl tubing you can get from a hardware store or petshop -
it's used for aquarium pump airline tubing. Then just siphon it out.

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Alan Mudd - 25 Sep 2006 07:45 GMT
Ahh Well, I just quoted what it said in the owner manual of my 1990 560 SEC
where it states test after engine running for 1-2 minutes...It seems Richard
knows something my manual doesn't....

Does it make any difference 1-2 minutes of running or fully warm?

Alan M

>>I would really appreciate answers to 3 questions
>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> diameter vinyl tubing you can get from a hardware store or petshop -
> it's used for aquarium pump airline tubing. Then just siphon it out.
Karl - 25 Sep 2006 14:54 GMT
You can let the car stand idling for hours, the trans oil will never reach operating temp. You HAVE
to drive it at least 5 miles to warm up the trans oil. Transmission oil is heat sensitive, it
expands when hot. If you do a fluid and filter change and then refill it, ONLY fill it to 10mm BELOW
the low mark on the dipstick. Then drive the car and check it. You will find it to be correct when
the trans reaches operating temp.

> Ahh Well, I just quoted what it said in the owner manual of my 1990 560 SEC
> where it states test after engine running for 1-2 minutes...It seems Richard
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> > diameter vinyl tubing you can get from a hardware store or petshop -
> > it's used for aquarium pump airline tubing. Then just siphon it out.
Thom - 25 Sep 2006 15:52 GMT
Karl,

How much fluid would that normally be, for an 89 300E for example.
This would be after draining the pan and Torqu Convertor.

Thanks.

> You can let the car stand idling for hours, the trans oil will never reach operating temp. You HAVE
> to drive it at least 5 miles to warm up the trans oil. Transmission oil is heat sensitive, it
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> > > 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
> > > 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
Alan Mudd - 27 Sep 2006 16:47 GMT
Err, Karl, your saying the Mercedes owners manual is wrong?

Just curious?

Although the Range Rover I owned said it had to be driven and fully warmed
etc, which is why I was surprised with what the manual said, I've just
double checked and I did read it right, clearly states check oil after
engine has been idling for 1-2 minutes...that's all.

Alan M

> You can let the car stand idling for hours, the trans oil will never reach
> operating temp. You HAVE
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>> > diameter vinyl tubing you can get from a hardware store or petshop -
>> > it's used for aquarium pump airline tubing. Then just siphon it out.
Thom - 27 Sep 2006 21:36 GMT
> Err, Karl, your saying the Mercedes owners manual is wrong?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Alan M

I would say so.  Maybe it should read that the car should sit level, at
idle for 2 minuted AFTER DRIVING.  This will ensure it is warm, and the
fluid has settled.
Richard Sexton - 27 Sep 2006 22:42 GMT
>Err, Karl, your saying the Mercedes owners manual is wrong?

It wouldn't be the first time. You could always ask them to clarify
this.

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1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net

Richard Sexton - 26 Sep 2006 05:21 GMT
>Ahh Well, I just quoted what it said in the owner manual of my 1990 560 SEC
>where it states test after engine running for 1-2 minutes...It seems Richard
>knows something my manual doesn't....
>
>Does it make any difference 1-2 minutes of running or fully warm?

I'm not gonna argue with the manual but it seems shocking to me
they don't want the tranny fluid warmed up.

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Richard Sexton       | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net


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