Hey... I never meant that theft is OK.

I just didn't see the relevance of claiming theft in connection with
your effort to assist someone with a problem, just because a single
article at a site, to which you refer, may break someones copyrights.
Particularly considering that you didn't even refer to that article at
all.

And the whole benzworld isn't unreliable, just because one article
contains copyrighted material (which is still not OK).

If so, this group is also unreliable, since most of the information
quoted most probably origins from copyrighted sources, such as workshop
manuals etc.

The real theft I see, is the link to the 140 DVD, which isn't cheap.

I bought that as well as Alldata subscription and MB EPC CD as some of
my sources to knowledge. So maybe I am a thief too, when don't ask
publishers whether I can use the knowlege obtained to assist others.

Why that?

At a major US autoshow once printed articles from
that site were spotted at the MB booth...
But I think the site just was too critical of the
DC board of directors (and especiallly the then CEO
Schrempp) as well about the MB model policy and the
lack of quality of the cars to make DC to like it.

There was too much work involved in that site -
what could be seen on the site on the internet
was only the tip of the iceberg:
Much more time was needed to discover interesting
material and then to wade through enormous amounts
of it, to check and evaluate many different sources,
to compile and to prepare the material etc. pp.,
resulting in a full-time unpaid engagement of much
more than 40 hours a week.
Plus private people, other websites, car clubs -
and in one case also an authorized MB dealership -
from literally all over the world stole material
from the site, also often putting their copyright
logo on the stolen material, like benzworld.org

And another thing:
Before in my company someone gets a job of course
also an informal check is run on the internet.
And if someone has a bad background - like being
a known thief like the mentioned people from
benzworld.org - his application not only is
returned immediately, but also a warning email
is sent to certain other companies: We do have
an emailing list to warn each other of such people.
That is why it is important to name the people on
the internet like in usenet groups: For easy finding
their names later.

And NO, it's not unfair, they _are_ thieves - and
we want honest and reliable employees, not thieves!

Juergen