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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2006

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190E  lose steering

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Guenter Scholz - 05 Oct 2006 01:27 GMT
Haven't driven my 190E for a while (kids are driving it) but noticed today    
that the steering on it has a fair amount of 'play'.  Where/how does this play
develop?  any pointers?

cheers, guenter
Guenter Scholz - 05 Oct 2006 02:37 GMT
I was hurrying and not clear.  Is the play most likely to develop in the
idler bushing or in the tie rod knuckles by the wheel?  I guess it could
be in the steering box but unlikely I'd think

cheers

>Haven't driven my 190E for a while (kids are driving it) but noticed today    
>that the steering on it has a fair amount of 'play'.  Where/how does this play
>develop?  any pointers?
>
>cheers, guenter
Thom - 05 Oct 2006 15:12 GMT
All the parts are pretty cheap.  I spent less than $120.00 from Rusty
and replaced both the left and right side tie rods, plus the drag link
(or center tie rod, whatever you want to call it).  IT took about 30
minutes after I put it on the jack stands.  An easy driveway fix.

If you will measure the current tie rods, and set the new ones to the
same length, then you can get the alignment very close to what it was
before the exchange.  I did this for mine, and when I had it aligned,
it required no adjustments to the tie rods when they were aligning it.
> I was hurrying and not clear.  Is the play most likely to develop in the
> idler bushing or in the tie rod knuckles by the wheel?  I guess it could
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> >
> >cheers, guenter
Guenter Scholz - 05 Oct 2006 17:59 GMT
thanks for the pointers..... I guess I will need to lift it up in the front  
and see what has play.... at 13 years old a lot can losen.... interestingly
my '89 300e has no such problems even though it's got 75k more km.... Hmmm
maybe MB did build them better earlier

cheers, guenter
MTI - 05 Oct 2006 06:56 GMT
Typically steering play is due to wear or maladjustment at the steering
linkages, all the way up to the pitman arm.  There is a hex bolt adjustment
screw at the top of the steering box, but it's best to rule out suspension
wear first.
Jens - 06 Oct 2006 07:15 GMT
It could also be as bad as a worn steering gear, or it could be as
simple as a loose pitman arm to pitman arm shaft mounting.

A very little play here will feel quite significant. That's why it
should be fixed with locktite. Anyway, try to check this.

> Typically steering play is due to wear or maladjustment at the steering
> linkages, all the way up to the pitman arm.  There is a hex bolt adjustment
> screw at the top of the steering box, but it's best to rule out suspension
> wear first.
Richard Sexton - 05 Oct 2006 12:02 GMT
>Haven't driven my 190E for a while (kids are driving it) but noticed today    
>that the steering on it has a fair amount of 'play'.  Where/how does this play
>develop?  any pointers?

At the age of the car it's not gonna hurt to adjust the steering box a bit,
just don't do it too much. Your manual has the procedure.

This is why the adjustment is there.

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