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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2006

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LWG - 10 Oct 2006 22:25 GMT
'95 C220, 205,000 miles.

About a month ago I went to pass another car on the highway, and the engine
bogged down and began shaking.  When I let up on the throttle, the engine
returned to normal.  When I would accelerate beyond 2/3 throttle, the
shaling and bucking would return.  When I turned off the engine and started
again, the problem disappeared until I needed to press the throttle more
than 2/3.

Having gone through many posts here, my guess is that I need a fuel pump
relay.  I know I need a wiring harness, but so far the only symptom
definitely related to that condition is a CE light which cannot be
extinguished.

I also have an SRS light which come on after start and stays on for a
minute.  From other posts, it appears this is seat belt resistance.  If it
were the slip rings, it would come on and stay on, correct?

Thanks.
Tiger - 11 Oct 2006 04:15 GMT
I would suspect the air flow meter. Do a test on the device.
LWG - 11 Oct 2006 22:40 GMT
Thank you.  I will keep that in mind.  I will likely have the dealership
replace the wiring harness, and then see what they say.  Is this a defect
that would show up on a "loaner" type scan tool?

>I would suspect the air flow meter. Do a test on the device.
LWG - 12 Oct 2006 02:48 GMT
Where would I find the Mass Airflow Sensor on my C220?  I've spent the last
few days going through these posts, and I think it is just inboard of the
air filter.  I think it is easy to replace, according to other posts.  Is
this right?

>I would suspect the air flow meter. Do a test on the device.
Tiger - 12 Oct 2006 14:28 GMT
That's right about the mass air flow sensor. I am not so sure on wiring
harness probability of causing the problem. This is easily checked by
inspecting the wires in the engine compartment for any fraying insulation on
the wires... all wires that goes to the engine.
LWG - 12 Oct 2006 22:03 GMT
I found the MAF.  Silly question: it's held in by two Torx screws, but the
pigtail for the sensor block one.  I tried to wiggle the pigtail to move it
aside, and it won't release or move.  I don't want to use force, what's the
trick?

Also, in another post I read you can reset the CE light by removing fuse 37,
but my fuse box goes up only to 33.  I don't have the radio code, and I
remember when I put a new battery in it was a little work to get the code
and put it in.  I'd rather pull a fuse it I could. What am I doing wrong?
'95 C220.

I looked at the wires and I can't see anything obviously wrong. I was told I
needed a harness by a fairly reputable dealer.  I can't see what's wrong,
but the dealer wouldn't really work on the CE light until I got the harness
replaced.

> That's right about the mass air flow sensor. I am not so sure on wiring
> harness probability of causing the problem. This is easily checked by
> inspecting the wires in the engine compartment for any fraying insulation
> on the wires... all wires that goes to the engine.
Tiger - 13 Oct 2006 04:47 GMT
If you have a rectangular black diagnostic  pinout... not sure where on your
car, you can push and hold the button to reset all the codes... you also can
read the touble code by flashing light. I only know this because of E class
of similar year.

You can try searching online for such info.

Since your car is OBD 1... you can simply disconnect the battery for like a
minute or so to reset all the codes.
Tiger - 13 Oct 2006 04:49 GMT
Another source of wiring harness problem is under your floor mat by the
driver seat... pull all the carpet up and you can see a bundle of wires that
goes out to the engine compartment... if any of those is frayed by sharp
sheetmetal... you can try to repair it with liquid tape... and tape whole
harness to protect it further.
Josh - 11 Oct 2006 19:06 GMT
You stated that the check engine light is on - have you had someone read the
diagnostic codes?
LWG - 11 Oct 2006 22:38 GMT
I had the car scanned after the CE light came on, but before this particular
problem.  The tech said that it was throwing a lot of codes because it is in
need of a wiring harness.  The CE light has been on for about a year, but
the car started and ran perfectly well until recently.  I ignored the CE
light because I thought it was an artifact of the wiring harness.  I have
not yet had the car scanned again because I have not yet had the wiring
harness replaced, and I thought the results would not be valid.

I have noted that since I have started using a big name brand gas, the
problem has been reduced.  I still get more than 450 miles from less than 15
gallons.

> You stated that the check engine light is on - have you had someone read
> the diagnostic codes?
 
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