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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2006

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BlueTec Diesel Review

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T.G. Lambach - 18 Oct 2006 04:14 GMT
N.Y. Times E320 Bluetec Review

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/automobiles/autoreviews/15MERC.html?_r=1&8dt&e
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Tiger - 18 Oct 2006 15:05 GMT
Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!
jdoe - 18 Oct 2006 15:40 GMT
>Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!

the current cdi is odor free and does 6.6, the only differences is
it's a v6 and has a 7 speed tranny.
I not knocking the blutec but I am quite happy with my cdi, 2.5 years
old 60k miles
Anonymous - 18 Oct 2006 15:54 GMT
>>Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!
>>
> the current cdi is odor free and does 6.6, the only differences is
> it's a v6 and has a 7 speed tranny.
> I not knocking the blutec but I am quite happy with my cdi, 2.5 years
> old 60k miles
Do you mean "the current US I6" with the current cdi? The I6 E320CDI does
7,7 s (0-100km), 6,6 is for the "current Euro E320CDI". The odor free is I
guess mostly from the low sulphur diesel.
jdoe - 18 Oct 2006 18:24 GMT
>>>Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!
>>>
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>7,7 s (0-100km), 6,6 is for the "current Euro E320CDI". The odor free is I
>guess mostly from the low sulphur diesel.

My e320cdi 6 was rated at 6.6 for 0 to 60 mph
Anonymous - 18 Oct 2006 20:32 GMT
>>>>Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!
>>>>
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>>
> My e320cdi 6 was rated at 6.6 for 0 to 60 mph
Still confused, is your E320CDI an I6 with 5 gear auto box or a V6 with
7G-tronic? The latter one would do 6.6 irrespectively if it was bluetech or
not.
jdoe - 18 Oct 2006 20:54 GMT
>>>>>Wow! Odor Free?! 6.6 seconds? Wow!
>>>>>
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>7G-tronic? The latter one would do 6.6 irrespectively if it was bluetech or
>not.

the former, its a 2005
greek_philosophizer - 18 Oct 2006 18:08 GMT
> N.Y. Times E320 Bluetec Review
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/automobiles/autoreviews/15MERC.html?_r=1&8dt&e
mc=dt&oref=slogin

The E.P.A. estimates that the greener fuel will ultimately save $150
billion a year in health and welfare costs and prevent 20,000 premature
deaths annually.

another wow.

I was behind a diesel the other day that was putting out so much smoke
it could have been on fire.

That should be illegal.

and then there was the Ford "Powerstink" pickup.

.
Geoff Miller - 18 Oct 2006 20:55 GMT
greek_philosophizer <greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com> parked his
Sprinter and  wrote:

> The E.P.A. estimates that the greener fuel will ultimately save
> $150 billion a year in health and welfare costs and prevent 20,000
> premature deaths annually.

Then again, they _would_ say that, wouldn't they?

I'm skeptical as to how anyone could possibly make such estimates.

> I was behind a diesel the other day that was putting out so much
> smoke it could have been on fire.

> That should be illegal.

Soot from diesel engines is an aesthetic matter.  The soot isn't
what contributes to smog; oxides of nitrogen (NOx) are.

> and then there was the Ford "Powerstink" pickup.

So I'm not the only one who's noticed that the Navistar engine Ford
used in those pickups (and in many, many tow trucks and ambulances)
has a uniquely malodorous, sickly-sweet smell?  I normally like the
smell of diesel exhaust, but what comes out of those engines could gag
a maggot.  Besides, the things are as thrashy as all get-out; they
sound like they're always on the verge of tearing themselves apart.

A friend used to have an F-250 diesel, and I was appalled at how
noisy it was, particularly under acceleration.  The Cummins used
in the Dodge pickup isn't much better.

Why are pickup diesels so noisy, when the diesels in passenger cars
demonstrate that the aural pollution simply isn't necessary? My theory
is that it's a marketing thing, aimed at the (mostly blue-collar male)
demographic who buys the trucks: diesel trucks are macho, and the Joe
Lunchbucket types who buy most of these pickups want everyone within
earshot to know what they have under the hood.  (Even gasoline-engined
pickups are inexplicably noisier than passenger cars with the same
engines.)

Driving a diesel, I have it both ways: I get good mileage _and_ piss
off liberals.

Geoff

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