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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2006

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What type of car do you drive, a white one?

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AT - 27 Nov 2006 22:36 GMT
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pfjw@aol.com - 27 Nov 2006 22:51 GMT
Tripe.

For those not acquainted with the term, the stomachs of a cow.....
Worse than Spam, which is at least fit for human consumption.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
anton - 27 Nov 2006 23:22 GMT
Peter,

It's an aquired taste, I happen to like both, as well as other parts of
cows, pigs, and other delicious animals.

Anton

> Tripe.
>
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> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
Chas Hurst - 27 Nov 2006 23:30 GMT
> Tripe.
>
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> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA

You're not too far away from Philly. The home of pepper pot soup. Also known
as Menudo to friends from south of the border.
none2u - 28 Nov 2006 00:24 GMT
Over here in Ohio , Menudo comes in a can in the grocery store...

>> Tripe.
>>
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> You're not too far away from Philly. The home of pepper pot soup. Also
> known as Menudo to friends from south of the border.
Chas Hurst - 28 Nov 2006 00:39 GMT
Yeah, lucky we are. I think cooking tripe may be worse that eating it.
A friend familiar with Mexican food claims menudo is good for treating a
hangover.

> Over here in Ohio , Menudo comes in a can in the grocery store...
>>
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>> You're not too far away from Philly. The home of pepper pot soup. Also
>> known as Menudo to friends from south of the border.
Dori A Schmetterling - 28 Nov 2006 09:26 GMT
I did consider white paint for the cabrio I was planning to buy 5 years ago
but I was advised by various people not do do it as it would affect
residuals.  Funny thing, as in Europe up to the eighties white was very
popular and was promoted by Merc on safety grounds.  Plus Merc's very bright
Arctic White was not available for this car.

So I chose black instead.  Almost as 'generic' as silver... :-)

DAS

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> Yeah, lucky we are. I think cooking tripe may be worse that eating it.
> A friend familiar with Mexican food claims menudo is good for treating a
> hangover.
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greek_philosophizer - 28 Nov 2006 16:47 GMT
> I did consider white paint for the cabrio I was planning to buy 5 years ago
> but I was advised by various people not do do it as it would affect
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>
> So I chose black instead.  Almost as 'generic' as silver... :-)

I wonder if changes in color preferences reflect a change in social
psychology.

A happy, confident, exuberant group might pick loud colours.

A more cautious group may choose less attention getting colors.

My impression is than in the last couple of decades people have moved
to
more muted colours, but I have no data to support that.

.
The Spanish Inquisition - 28 Nov 2006 18:08 GMT
>> I did consider white paint for the cabrio I was planning to buy 5 years ago
>> but I was advised by various people not do do it as it would affect
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> to
> more muted colours, but I have no data to support that.

And the lease company may prescribe muted colours for resale reasons.
Then there's the observation that loud colors (bright red or yellow)
tend to be the ones that fade long before the car is mechanically ready
for the scrap heap. Faded paint coats look awful and repaint jobs are
very expensive.

Ximinez
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and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
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Dori A Schmetterling - 28 Nov 2006 20:05 GMT
Mercedes bright red or yellow, both of which I have seen (well, bright paint
on Mercs, maybe aftermarket), won't fade prematurely... ;-)

DAS
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>>> I did consider white paint for the cabrio I was planning to buy 5 years
>>> ago
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> Ximinez
The Spanish Inquisition - 01 Dec 2006 15:03 GMT
> Mercedes bright red or yellow, both of which I have seen (well, bright paint
> on Mercs, maybe aftermarket), won't fade prematurely... ;-)

I recall seeing faded red w123's...

Ximinez
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Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

Roadie - 30 Nov 2006 13:02 GMT
> >> I did consider white paint for the cabrio I was planning to buy 5 years ago
> >> but I was advised by various people not do do it as it would affect
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> for the scrap heap. Faded paint coats look awful and repaint jobs are
> very expensive.

Yes, the bright colors do tend to fade faster than more muted colors,
no matter the maker.  Red was a popular Mercedes color, and it would
turn dull after 10 years on the road.  I suspect that leasing companies
might select less bright colors because they would appeal to a wider
audience on resale.  Fading after 3 to 4 years on lease should not be
noticable.

> --
> Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
> and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
> http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A
Sneaks - 10 Dec 2006 02:27 GMT
> Yeah, lucky we are. I think cooking tripe may be worse that eating it.
> A friend familiar with Mexican food claims menudo is good for treating a
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>>> You're not too far away from Philly. The home of pepper pot soup. Also
>>> known as Menudo to friends from south of the border.

And here I was thinking Menudo was a really bad boy band from the 80's....

Sneaks
'68 T1
Guenter Scholz - 28 Nov 2006 00:31 GMT
>Tripe.
>
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>Peter Wieck
>Wyncote, PA

  I beg to differ!  Delicious, especially when prepare sweet and sour style

cheers
none2u - 28 Nov 2006 00:52 GMT
I think anything can be made to taste great. But somewhere along the line I
decided some things weren't meant to be eaten. Got tired of it reminding me
of being a kid.  I will however eat just about anything ,including menudo ,
If I make it  myself.
>>Tripe.
>>
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>
> cheers
pfjw@aol.com - 28 Nov 2006 19:15 GMT
>    I beg to differ!  Delicious, especially when prepare sweet and sour style

De gustibus non est disputandum.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Guenter Scholz - 28 Nov 2006 20:08 GMT
>>    I beg to differ!  Delicious, especially when prepare sweet and sour style
>
>De gustibus non est disputandum.

...... could it be malformed tastebuds?  :-)

cheers, guenter
pfjw@aol.com - 28 Nov 2006 22:07 GMT
>  ...... could it be malformed tastebuds?  :-)

Oh, I dunno. I have survived (and enjoyed) an actual "Goat Grab" in a
genuine Bedouin tent with a genuine Bedouin family in the Empty Quarter
of Saudi Arabia. But to this day, I still will not eat sweet potatoes
(or yams) in any form, pudding in any form, or offal. It can wiggle, it
can be strange, peculiar or mysterious, no problem. But those three
things I can detect in any quantity from about any distance, and I
cannot (not a matter of 'will not') eat them. Just won't get past the
plate or onto the fork (or into the right hand as it happens).

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 30 Nov 2006 23:54 GMT
>Peter Wieck
>Wyncote, PA

Hey!  That wasn't you this afternoon in the Wyncote murder-suicide,
complete with police SWAT team hours-long siege standoff was it?

I was heading down 309 late this afternoon on my way home, and south
of the turnpike and in the distance I could see two helicopters
hovering.  Always a bad sign.  I thought it was a bit odd in that they
were hovering rather higher than normal, but I guess that was to stay
out of range of any stray rounds.  I just prayed that it wasn't *yet
another* clueless upside-down-and-on-fire twat without the skills to
do the high speed 309 thing, and I was positively rewarded with a
relatively quick exit via Washington Lane.

So, was it you?  I guess if you answer this, then it wasn't.
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Dan.

pfjw@aol.com - 01 Dec 2006 01:13 GMT
>  I just prayed that it wasn't *yet
> another* clueless upside-down-and-on-fire twat without the skills to
> do the high speed 309 thing, and I was positively rewarded with a
> relatively quick exit via Washington Lane.

Of course, there is no Washington Lane exit from 309. So, what fantasy
are you playing at?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 01 Dec 2006 12:37 GMT
>>  I just prayed that it wasn't *yet
>> another* clueless upside-down-and-on-fire twat without the skills to
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>Of course, there is no Washington Lane exit from 309. So, what fantasy
>are you playing at?

My mistake, I meant Greenwood Ave.  Greenwood runs kind of parallel to
Washington, which hits the *continuation* of 309, after it's called
Ogontz Ave, as you well know.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/16137882.htm

So, any SWAT action on your street?

ObligatoryBMWContent:  The fixing lugs on the little one inch square
cover for the towing hook in the front bumper of my e39 were busted by
the tow-truck gorilla, and now it won't stay in.  I suppose that BMW
is going to charge me $30 for a new one.  It's a small piece of
self-colored injection molded plastic that would, if it were a part of
a washing machine or something like that, probably cost 25¢.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 01 Dec 2006 16:11 GMT
No no, you habe to post Mercedes and Volvo refs at the very least

If you refer to cooled engines you will swat several birds with one stone
(to mix my metaphors).

DAS

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> ObligatoryBMWContent:  The fixing lugs on the little one inch square
> cover for the towing hook in the front bumper of my e39 were busted by
> the tow-truck gorilla, and now it won't stay in.  I suppose that BMW
> is going to charge me $30 for a new one.  It's a small piece of
> self-colored injection molded plastic that would, if it were a part of
> a washing machine or something like that, probably cost 25¢.
pfjw@aol.com - 01 Dec 2006 16:47 GMT
> http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/16137882.htm
>
> So, any SWAT action on your street?

You are not from "around here", are you?

That address is almost in LaMott, about as far from us (just under 2
miles) as you were at the closest point on 309, assuming you were ever
on 309. That they are both served out of the 19095 (Wyncote) Post
Office is not relevant to how the residents feel and speak about their
location and place-name. Those who live in that section will call
themselves as living in Cedarbrook, LaMott or Wyncote depending on
whether they are appealing their taxes, bragging about history or
bragging for artificial status. They all pay taxes to Cheltenham
Township in any case.

Trust the Inquirer not to know these subtle differences.

Greenwood cuts off 309, but again, goes *nowhere* near Washington Lane.
309 ends at Cheltenham Avenue, Washington Lane comes off Cheltenham a
couple-four blocks ABOVE where it crosses Ogontz.... which joins the
base of 309.

I am still not sure what you are playing at?

Note that Mapquest shows several intersections that do not exist and
misses a few that do. So, if you were to program your GPS unit for the
intersection of Chelten Hills Drive and Washington Lane, you would be
in for a very long drop.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote PA

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 01 Dec 2006 17:46 GMT
>> http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/16137882.htm
>>
>> So, any SWAT action on your street?
>
>You are not from "around here", are you?

Thank god, no.  I have just been living around here for a few years,
and I pass through sections of Cheltenham on my daily commute.

>That address is almost in LaMott, about as far from us (just under 2
>miles) as you were at the closest point on 309, assuming you were ever
>on 309

My commute also takes me past Jenkintown station.  You're familiar
with that?  And the Lukoil gas station just across the road?  OTOH, if
it really bothers you, I'll deny that I drive through there nearly
every day...

>That they are both served out of the 19095 (Wyncote) Post
>Office is not relevant to how the residents feel and speak about their
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>bragging for artificial status. They all pay taxes to Cheltenham
>Township in any case.

>Greenwood cuts off 309, but again, goes *nowhere* near Washington Lane.
>309 ends at Cheltenham Avenue, Washington Lane comes off Cheltenham a
>couple-four blocks ABOVE where it crosses Ogontz.... which joins the
>base of 309.
>
>I am still not sure what you are playing at?

You seem very touchy about what neighborhoods people live in.  I'm not
playing at anything, just making a joke about there being a
murder-suicide, a SWAT team and news helicopters in your neck of the
woods that, thankfully, did not impact my journey.  That's all,
honestly.  Calm down.

>Note that Mapquest shows several intersections that do not exist and
>misses a few that do. So, if you were to program your GPS unit for the
>intersection of Chelten Hills Drive and Washington Lane, you would be
>in for a very long drop.

Well, if *you* drove 309 at all regularly, you'd be aware of the
massive reconstruction that's been going on there for the past year or
more, and you would understand why map databases have not yet caught
up.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...
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pfjw@aol.com - 01 Dec 2006 18:52 GMT
> Well, if *you* drove 309 at all regularly, you'd be aware of the
> massive reconstruction that's been going on there for the past year or
> more, and you would understand why map databases have not yet caught
> up.

These are long-standing errors. I am privileged to be able to commute
all 9.8 miles 100% on back roads, although 309 is a quick alternate for
the first/last leg of the trip depending on conditions.

Not so much touchy at all, as responding in an equally leaden way to
your post. For all that you might think of this area, we are still able
to leave our doors unlocked and get deliveries dropped on the porch
without worry. Of course any stranger on the block would not get 50
steps without some neighbor generally politely asking after their
bona-fides. Lemme see... we have 21 adults, 15 children, 6 cats, 9 dogs
and 3 turtles on the block. No trouble finding sitters. Age of
residents is ~75 to new-born. We lost our oldest resident (91 then)
four years ago.

Cheltenham is one of the oldest suburbs in the region, the foundations
of the oldest residences were laid in 1682, some seven years before the
Wynn house in Wynnfield. LaMott was a terminus of the Underground
Railroad, hence the friendly-but-pointed rivalry between the two
Historic Districts (Wyncote & LaMott) and who lives where. "Cedarbrook"
is kinda-sorta where the old quarry (and the township leaf-composting
facility) is and along Cheltenham Avenue (the city line) and so
referenced humorously at tax-time... run-down property, funny smells
and all that. And, of course, our train stations were designed by
Horace Trumbauer, not that upstart Frank Furness... and so forth.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 01 Dec 2006 19:31 GMT
>Of course any stranger on the block would not get 50
>steps without some neighbor generally politely asking after their
>bona-fides.

Come now, that would not happen.

*Relatively* safe you may be, but I know that block.  It is on a busy
street with traffic lights at one end of it, overlooking a large train
station car park  It is not some old fashioned rural village.
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pfjw@aol.com - 01 Dec 2006 20:18 GMT
>  It is not some old fashioned rural village.

You do reach. And you do speculate pretty wildly.

No, it is not a rural village. But safer based on 24 years on the block
than our rural summer house up in Columbia County.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 01 Dec 2006 20:51 GMT
>>  It is not some old fashioned rural village.
>
>You do reach. And you do speculate pretty wildly.

I don't see where I did either, but hey - maybe that's just me.

I really don't think it's a good idea to leave your doors unlocked
though.
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Dan.

pfjw@aol.com - 01 Dec 2006 21:07 GMT
> I really don't think it's a good idea to leave your doors unlocked
> though.

The dogs certainly do.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 01 Dec 2006 23:27 GMT
>> I really don't think it's a good idea to leave your doors unlocked
>> though.
>
>The dogs certainly do.

That's one of the problems with dogs.

I have a small flap in the back door that lets my two cats come and go
as they please while at the same time allowing *me* to keep the doors
locked.  The downside is that they sometimes bring small to medium
sized mammals into the house and then bloodily slaughter them, but I
digress...

"Cats rule, dogs drool."  Dogs are just too much damned trouble,
IMHFO, and cats have bags more personality anyway.  Women have always
known this, and it's one of the few things that they're actually right
about.

How's that?  Or am I reaching and speculating wildly again?
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pfjw@aol.com - 02 Dec 2006 00:18 GMT
We keep two cats and two dogs. If not known-to-family, 30 - 100 pounds
= breakfast. 100 pounds or larger = all day. Our neighbors' dogs and
cats feel much the same. We/they all know each other, and the "Pack" is
naturally wary of strangers.

As to cats:

The larger cat (for now) has brought home up to his own size and weight
(16#) in prey... with specific reference to a  young raccoon brought in
more-or-less intact then chased up stairs, into the bathroom and
finally dispatched in the bathtub. Animal Control still does not
believe what they saw. He is FAST! The young one is not quite allowed
out yet, but he looks to be much larger eventually, as he is 12 pounds
at 11 months.

When we were in Saudi, the big cat learned to catch rats.... which,
until the underlying problem was found and solved (a void in the
concrete under the recyling corral), he would lay out two or three per
night at our kitchen door. Saudi was also the only place he ever
expressed any interest in birds, as Turtle Doves were a major pest in
that area... we were the only villa around without any bird crap, he
averaged 2-5 per week. Gekkos were candy, although he only chased those
if they were inside. In any case, even after 12 years of predatory
behavior he has come through all his encounters without a scratch on
him. But for damned sure, his rabies and other shots are current. Since
we have been back (two years come February) he has not even looked at a
bird.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Not only that, but he wears a bell and always has.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Dean Dark - 02 Dec 2006 00:39 GMT
>When we were in Saudi,

Well, I could tell you many tales of when I lived in exotic foreign
parts, and of local habits of keeping animals both as "pets" and for
food, as well as the variety of meat available from local butchers and
farmers.  I have always said that I will eat anything that moves
slower than I do.  I still say it.

But, I think this has gone far enough.
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Dori A Schmetterling - 04 Dec 2006 15:18 GMT
My goodness.  Mind-numbing micro-detail.  Can I have a number for the number
of drainage points per yard for said stretch or road and the angle of the
camber?

Which reminds me of Ball's Law

The Angle of the Dangle
Is proportional to the Thrust of the Bust
And inversely proportional to the Mass of the a.s
Provided that
The Heat of the Meat between the two feet remains constant.

DAS

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> These are long-standing errors. I am privileged to be able to commute
> all 9.8 miles 100% on back roads, although 309 is a quick alternate for
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> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
Roadie - 29 Nov 2006 13:18 GMT
> Tripe.
>
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> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA

Hmmm....

Pho is another tripe based soup which is delicious and of course the
Scots have their haggis and the southerners love those chitlins and
fried pork rinds.  Sausage, liver, kidney, brain, sweetbreads, blood
pudding, scrapple, blutwurst, duck tongues, pickled pigs feet, beef
tongue, etc., etc are but a few delicacies enjoyed by a lot of people.
Expand your horizons beyond that overly salted and chemically preserved
Spam and you might find some real dining pleasure.
pfjw@aol.com - 29 Nov 2006 15:40 GMT
> Expand your horizons beyond that overly salted and chemically preserved
> Spam and you might find some real dining pleasure.

See yesterday's reply... I have "been around" somewhat.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Roadie - 29 Nov 2006 18:07 GMT
> pfjw@aol.com wrote:
>
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> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA

Well, I can't even begin to comprehend why yams or sweet potatoes are
so awful they would rank with offal.  And I'm not even sure just
exactly what offal really is, since many cultures use most every part
of the pig or cow but their respective oink or moo.

Most meat products are really nothing more than tasty protein if fixed
properly.  Sweetbreads sauteed in a wine sauce are delicious for
dinner, as is a chopped chicken liver sandwich for lunch.  And who
could pass up that Pennsylvania delicacy fried scrapple with scrambled
eggs for breakfast.

I would venture to say that some people would lose their appetite for a
lot of common meat products if they saw a feeding operation or visited
an abattoir.
Dori A Schmetterling - 29 Nov 2006 21:04 GMT
Me, for example.

Yuuuukkkhhhh....bleahhh........

DAS
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anton - 29 Nov 2006 20:30 GMT
uhmmmm, pho

> > Tripe.
> >
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> Expand your horizons beyond that overly salted and chemically preserved
> Spam and you might find some real dining pleasure.
Roadie - 29 Nov 2006 23:03 GMT
Were you making a statement or posing a question with your uhmmming.

> uhmmmm, pho
>
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> > Expand your horizons beyond that overly salted and chemically preserved
> > Spam and you might find some real dining pleasure.
anton - 30 Nov 2006 02:09 GMT
no question, just all this pho and tripe talk is making me hungry.

That is all,
Anton

> Were you making a statement or posing a question with your uhmmming.
>
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> > > Expand your horizons beyond that overly salted and chemically preserved
> > > Spam and you might find some real dining pleasure.
 
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