Car Forum / MINI / June 2004
new mini, oh yes!
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Chris Long - 14 Jun 2004 22:13 GMT well, T reg with only 5000 miles on the clock! virtually brand new, not a scratch or spot of rust/dirt on it!.
You may recall me posting hear in October after being involved in an accident and writing off my cooper :-(, well I've returned to the fold after selling my temporary heap of a vauxhall corsa!
Ok, I'm in the same position as when I bought my Cooper from new.
what IS the best way to water proof and protect. Any hints tips etc very welcome
Chris
Steve68s - 15 Jun 2004 01:40 GMT Hello,
Have a very good look, a real mini with no rust will be a first, later minis fresh from the factory had rust as standard, best thing to do is waxoil the whole thing, you will need to remove all the dirt from the underside first & let it dry, waxoil the floors, especially the area around the boot floor, around & over the rear subframe, rear valance, under the front wings & A panles, rear of the front valance, under & inside the windscreen surround panel, get the kit with the injection adaptor & put waxoil into the sills, the doors, if you feel adventurous drill some holes & put waxoil into the door pillars & the roof too, I have seen minis with rust holes in the corners of the roof, the headlining will need to be removed to do this but if you are thinking of keeping it long term this is a must,
Steve,
> well, T reg with only 5000 miles on the clock! virtually brand new, not a > scratch or spot of rust/dirt on it!. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chris Chris Long - 15 Jun 2004 18:10 GMT i don;t really have the expertise or space to do some of the more adventurous rustproofing things. Any companies or garages who could do this?
Chris
> Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > Chris Jono Barspeed - 15 Jun 2004 18:14 GMT Its a peice of cake to do it yourself, when i got my se7en from the dealer, all i had was a single garage. I used some ramps and a trolley jack and some axle stands with cloth padding, jacked the car up and hammerited the whole underside and then got a pump action waxoil kit and soaked the underside, then bought a spray can of waxoil and did the door drain holes, the hinge panel, under the bumpers, the boot floor had a can of waxoil poured into it leaving about half an inch in the battery tray. Easy job and only slight rust and bubbles after 2 and a half years!
jono
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> i don;t really have the expertise or space to do some of the more > adventurous rustproofing things. Any companies or garages who could do this? [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > > > Chris fragged8 - 15 Jun 2004 22:54 GMT hiya I dont want to piss on your fireworks but no amount of waxoil will save a late mini from the worm. I have been doing a resto on my 92 and am now convinced that BMW used an additive in the paint to cause rust, I say this because I had places that were undamaged by any form of paint penetration and the worm was still present. now there is only a couple of ways this could happen ! bad Paint, bad metal, bad process, or deliberate intervention.
I dont believe BMW would buy bad paint or metal unless it was specified, bad process is something BMW dont do unless there is something in it for them ?? like a new car comming out and they want all the old ones gone in 10 years. and that leaves deliberate intervention, you can make your own mind up there....
fragged
Jono Barspeed - 15 Jun 2004 23:38 GMT Poor workmanship is general when MG Rover cars are concerned, it didnt just start when BMW took over and didnt just stop when BMW left, my car is rusting in the same places as my car of ten years older, my Cooper was 92 vintage, two years before BMW took over, now my MG Rover, 2 and half years old is okay, just a few bubbles and flakes at the front, mainly due to bad finish under panels that have concealed rust developing. A few years ago a chap i met had taken delivery of a 1998 cooper, stripped it, repainted it in yellow and black, he had done everything he could to cover the car in paint because the factory finish was awful, because he was paranoid of the rust bug, big thing to do but it might at least mean he has a rust free car after 10 years?
jono
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> hiya > I dont want to piss on your fireworks but no amount of waxoil will [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > fragged Graham W - 16 Jun 2004 06:32 GMT > A few years ago a chap i met had taken delivery of a 1998 cooper, stripped > it, repainted it in yellow and black, he had done everything he could to > cover the car in paint because the factory finish was awful, because he was > paranoid of the rust bug, big thing to do but it might at least mean he has > a rust free car after 10 years? For that much cost and effort, a Japanese car (or emigrating somewhere with reasonable weather) looks much more sensible.
Graham W - 16 Jun 2004 06:28 GMT > hiya > I dont want to piss on your fireworks but no amount of waxoil will save [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the old ones gone in 10 years. and that leaves deliberate intervention, > you can make your own mind up there.... Rust is rarely a problem in Australia, yet one year of Mini Moke, 1977, is absolutely notorious for ferocious rust eruptions in strange places.
Apparently the metal pretreatment was changed when production moved to a new site at the begining of that year, and was changed again when they saw the light.
It's entirely possible someone at BMW/Rover decided to save a few pounds on the steel treatment some time in the early 1990s.
Whether such a decision was in any way influenced by the impending end of Mini production is anyone's guess. On one hand, it would make sense, since old Minis really have no influence on the reputation of the new Mini. On the other hand, the Mini spent most of the last two decades of production just a few years from the planned end of production.
Greg Dobson - 16 Jun 2004 07:28 GMT Gee im glad i live in Australia, we have 60's model that have zero rust in them, no wonder its called the lucky country.
Doogie
> > hiya > > I dont want to piss on your fireworks but no amount of waxoil will save [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Mini. On the other hand, the Mini spent most of the last two decades of > production just a few years from the planned end of production. me - 16 Jun 2004 10:03 GMT > Gee im glad i live in Australia, we have 60's model that have zero rust in > them, no wonder its called the lucky country. > > Doogie Did you get that one on ebay last week?? Noted you had a bid.
Looked as if it had quite a bit of rust where it was ground back on the guards and rear quarter.
rm
>>>hiya >>> I dont want to piss on your fireworks but no amount of waxoil will save [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 6/06/2004 Chris Long - 16 Jun 2004 21:13 GMT ok, so there is no hope my only way forward is waxoil as much as possible and then after 10 years strip down and respray
chris
> well, T reg with only 5000 miles on the clock! virtually brand new, not a > scratch or spot of rust/dirt on it!. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chris
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