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Car Forum / MINI / June 2004

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Mk3 Cooper S questions

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Greg Dobson - 19 Jun 2004 10:55 GMT
Hi, looked at a MK3 english Cooper s today, a rare car in Australia, mean't
to be a 73 model, has twin tanks clubman taillights, no overiders/nerf bars,
140 kph speedo. Has a morris 1100 S type engine with no cam plates & rubber
uni joints. Are all these things right??? If not what should it have?????

Doogie
Sydney Australia, in the freezing winter, gets to 7 degrees at night.
Jono Barspeed - 19 Jun 2004 20:45 GMT
Bit of a tricky one that, australian models seem to have gone on past the
UK's Cooper S cutoff point maybe of 1972?
Does it have internal or external door hinges?
Does the door window have a small window that is hinged and a large one that
winds up and down?

I would have thought though the motor should have been 1275cc with twin
carbs of a factory fitted webber....

The rubber uni joints sound right.

Jono

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> Hi, looked at a MK3 english Cooper s today, a rare car in Australia, mean't
> to be a 73 model, has twin tanks clubman taillights, no overiders/nerf bars,
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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Tim - 20 Jun 2004 06:13 GMT
its not an S, or probably even a Cooper. Send me some photos and chassi
engine numbers if you like and I'll check it against my records books
Last official build date on an S was 1971, some sneaked through as a 1972.
All had a 1275 engine and later style rectangular tail lights etc. Sounds
like another example of a paper car that no longer, or possibly never
existed.
Ive seen 100's in my time.
> Hi, looked at a MK3 english Cooper s today, a rare car in Australia, mean't
> to be a 73 model, has twin tanks clubman taillights, no overiders/nerf bars,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.706 / Virus Database: 462 - Release Date: 14/06/2004
me - 20 Jun 2004 08:53 GMT
> its not an S, or probably even a Cooper. Send me some photos and chassi
> engine numbers if you like and I'll check it against my records books
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>>Doogie
>>Sydney Australia, in the freezing winter, gets to 7 degrees at night.

What Colour was the car. there was one around here that was green that
was a clubman with a round front put on it. Sounds like that one.

Good job.

rm
Andrew Murray - 21 Jun 2004 20:08 GMT
> Hi, looked at a MK3 english Cooper s today, a rare car in Australia, mean't
> to be a 73 model, has twin tanks clubman taillights, no overiders/nerf bars,
> 140 kph speedo. Has a morris 1100 S type engine with no cam plates & rubber
> uni joints. Are all these things right??? If not what should it have?????

1. British Mk3 Cooper S were only made between '69 and '71 with '72
registrations being very much an exception
2. Twin tanks and Clubman rear lights would be correct
3. Some British Mk3 Cooper S cars came with overiders/nerf bars and some
didn't
4. A British Mk3 Cooper S engine *should* have tappet/cam plates, although
some people claim that some of the very last had Italian Innocenti Cooper
1300 blocks without them.
5. A British Mk3 Cooper S would have solid Hardy Spicer uni joints.

So given facts 1. and especially 5. I'd say its a fake.

Andrew Murray
Mini Owners Club Limited Editions Register
http://www.minilimitededitions.co.uk
 
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