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Car Forum / MINI / July 2004

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Rocky - 21 Jul 2004 01:09 GMT
Hi I have a good question for you all. I has been five years since I last
owned a mini, she was a great little car and now I am thinking of getting
another. This is where the problems start even though I love minis to bits
they are full of problems mine would not start on cold days or after sort
journeys, and the rust. At the weekend I would be working it changing worn
parts, the usual. The big problem I have with getting another is will it be
the same. If I am going to be spending ?4500 I want I car that will start
every morning first time even when it is freezing out side. I want something
that will not cost me a fortune in repairs or see me cringing at MOT time.
So my question is a mini still a good daily driver that I will not have to
worry about. At least my ford Ka starts first time every time

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Skirrow - 21 Jul 2004 07:22 GMT
> Hi I have a good question for you all. I has been five years since I last
> owned a mini, she was a great little car and now I am thinking of getting
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> So my question is a mini still a good daily driver that I will not have to
> worry about. At least my ford Ka starts first time every time

I would say that £4500 should buy you a decent Mini that shouldn't
give you any problems. Try looking at one of the later injection
coopers perhaps. I had a 1.3i as my first Mini and it never let me
down until a roudabout crashed into it.

If you don't fancy a recent model, £4500 should buy you a good carb
model, only they might not be quite as good at starting in the cold.
That said I had a £100 '88 City E for a couple of years, total dog,
bits falling off it, the lot but it started everytime.

As for rust, well, check it over very carefully and waxoyl or similar
from day 1, cross your fingers and take up Voodoo and you *might* hold
off the rust for a little while.

Make sure you check out lots of cars and make sure you get a good one,
£4500 should buy you a car with no problems and in tip top condition.

Dave
Skirrow - 21 Jul 2004 07:36 GMT
> Hi I have a good question for you all. I has been five years since I last
> owned a mini, she was a great little car and now I am thinking of getting
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So my question is a mini still a good daily driver that I will not have to
> worry about. At least my ford Ka starts first time every time

For £4500 you should be able to get a decent Mini with no problems.
Try looking at the later injection models which should be more
reliable and start easier, although if its an older one you are after,
£4500 should buy you one in A1 condition anyway.

Rust is a bugger, make sure you check carefully and buy one with no
rust if possible, then waxoyl everything. That should keep it at bay
for a while at least.

Good luck,
Dave
Skirrow - 21 Jul 2004 07:37 GMT
> Hi I have a good question for you all. I has been five years since I last
> owned a mini, she was a great little car and now I am thinking of getting
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So my question is a mini still a good daily driver that I will not have to
> worry about. At least my ford Ka starts first time every time

For £4500 you should be able to get a decent Mini with no problems.
Try looking at the later injection models which should be more
reliable and start easier, although if its an older one you are after,
£4500 should buy you one in A1 condition anyway.

Rust is a bugger, make sure you check carefully and buy one with no
rust if possible, then waxoyl everything. That should keep it at bay
for a while at least.

Good luck,
Dave
The Muffin Man - 21 Jul 2004 09:03 GMT
It depends on what you get and how you look after it.  There are some very
tidy minis around that will do you fine.  I have rarely had a problem with
the pickup in the last 5 years.  I paid a lot for it and knew the history.
It had had a full nut and bolt and bare metal respray rebuild 2 years
previously.

If you buy your atypical ancient rot box and have no intention of doing any
work to it for yourself then no, it isn't a good daily driver.  Neither will
your Ka be in 20 years time!!

The Muffin Man

> Hi I have a good question for you all. I has been five years since I last
> owned a mini, she was a great little car and now I am thinking of getting
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So my question is a mini still a good daily driver that I will not have to
> worry about. At least my ford Ka starts first time every time
Rocky - 21 Jul 2004 11:08 GMT
What I was looking is at least a 1997 model, half leather would be nice two.
Most come with alloys now anyway, so that would save me some money. Will
have to add electric windows and central locking, but that's not a problem.
But is it fair to compare minis to other small modern cars, like corsa`s or
Ka`s, etc.
The Muffin Man - 21 Jul 2004 12:23 GMT
It depends on what you want.  I have a mate who has got a 2 year old Clio
that left his missus stranded in town on Friday.  Just because it is new
doesn't make it reliable - but you have a much better chance!!

I know loads of people who break down all the time in their ?200 bomb of a
mini that last had a service sometime in the late seventies.  They are
pi$$ed off and say that the mini is crap and unreliable.  Again, if it was a
modern Clio from 1978 with no service in the last 15 years I would expect it
to break down all the time too!!

It is all down to the condition of the vehicle.  If you get a good condition
mini with little rust and sound mechanicals AND you keep it well serviced.
Oil change, plugs, leads, greased nipples etc.  AND you waxoil it on a
regular (every 2/3 years) basis, you should have a trouble free motor for
years to come.

I have a friend who had a P reg equinox that he didn't maintain.  He didn't
service it.  He didn't wash it.  He filled it with broken CD cases and crap.
He wondered why he hated his unreliable rusty filthy car.  When it had that
level of maintenance, having a new car was a nightmare as it had too many
things to go wrong!!  Carbs are easy to play with and fix/replace.
Electrics (I hate em but) on a carb, they are easy to play with and fix.

If you want a reliable car that will last you 3 years without touching it
and then bin when it starts to go wrong, by a Ka or a Fiasco or something
similar.  If you aren't going to maintain it it will be much more reliable!!
That is why people buy new cheap cars and no-one wants a second hand one
anymore.  People don't want to look after their cars.  They want them to
work until they throw them away!!

If you are prepared to change the oil, grease it's nipples and maintain it,
there is no reason that a mini won't do you for just as long, if not
longer...

For my 3.5 grand I have had 5 years of happy motoring in a 34 year old car.

The Muffin Man

> What I was looking is at least a 1997 model, half leather would be nice two.
> Most come with alloys now anyway, so that would save me some money. Will
> have to add electric windows and central locking, but that's not a problem.
> But is it fair to compare minis to other small modern cars, like corsa`s or
> Ka`s, etc.
Rocky - 21 Jul 2004 12:46 GMT
Thanks muffin man. You are 100% if you put in the time then they will not
let you down. I don't mind servicing or greasing a mini, just as long as its
not every second weekend. My Ka is 2000 with 3500 on clock full service
history (means nothing,) and it now needing new engine mounts, and I don't
drive it that hard. The big problem is that I don't own my Ka the finance
company does L , so it would be a personal loan to pay off the car finance
plus some extra for my next car. This means I would most likely going with
my Ka to trade in L . Getting a good deal on a personal loan is not problem
as I work for a bank.
The Muffin Man - 21 Jul 2004 13:40 GMT
I have never had a car other than a mini as my daily driver - the wife does.
I don't spend my entire life working on it either.  That would get in the
way of building a new one and faffing around with motorbikes  :)

Good luck with it.  Don't buy the first one you see.  Don't buy one thinking
that if you pay the money you will get a car that is worth your money.  Shop
around!!  Many people are asking silly prices for them in a lot of the mini
shops.  Huddersfield Mini Spares have a very tidy Y reg (new) saloon with a
different interior and some alloys on it.  ?9995!!  Clearly Gordon Brown
introduced mini shop tax last week.  That car should be in your price
bracket if it is anywhere else!!  It would get ?3000 tops trade in against a
Euro box!!

These guys do an outstanding job and all drive minis but don't ask silly
prices for them.  If they have one in it is in excellent condition as they
know exactly what to look for.
http://www.jcbates.co.uk/

Just to give you an idea, they had an immaculate Paul Smith LTD edition in
last year with your price tag on it.  15000 miles!!!!!!

If that was at somewhere like Huddersfield Mini Spares you would have been
looking at at least ?10000 with the prices mini shops seem to be asking at
the moment!!

Just so you know, I have no affiliation with JC Bates other than they have
my pickup shell in the body shop half way through a sand blast and repanel
experience.  The body work guy is in the middle of doing his own moke shell
in the same manner.  I have seen loads of their work and trust them.  That's
why I go back.

Good Luck

The Muffin Man

> Thanks muffin man. You are 100% if you put in the time then they will not
> let you down. I don't mind servicing or greasing a mini, just as long as its
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> my Ka to trade in L . Getting a good deal on a personal loan is not problem
> as I work for a bank.
Rocky - 21 Jul 2004 14:18 GMT
Thanks agian, Muffin I only want ?2900 trade in for the euro box, If  I am
going to travel all the way down from scotland I would have to be damm sure
that I was going to buy at the right price
Dave Skirrow - 21 Jul 2004 14:07 GMT
> Thanks muffin man. You are 100% if you put in the time then they will
> not let you down. I don't mind servicing or greasing a mini, just as
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> means I would most likely going with my Ka to trade in L . Getting a
> good deal on a personal loan is not problem as I work for a bank.

If you wash it and check fluid levels etc. every weekend and look after
it when you should according the service interval you shouldn't have any
problems really. According to haynes, which in my opinion is as good as
anything for sevice intervals and stuff, the cat should be serviced
every 3000 miles/3 months, so probably twice as often as a newer small
hatch.

A Mini will need more maintenance that a more modern vehicle, make no
mistake about that, but the rewards are worth it.

I suppose you know yourself if you are the kind of person to take the
time and stick to service schedules or the kind of person to leave it
till it breaks down, if you are the former, then get a Mini!

Dave
Geoffrey Bard - 22 Jul 2004 00:54 GMT
As we say in the U.S. (and perhaps in the UK too):  DUDE.  If I could
legally import a 1997 Mini, I'd do it in a flash.

As far as reliability:  my 1969 Mini, refitted in Denmark before export to
the U.S. over a year ago, is doing just great.  I changed the water pump
early on, but the existing one was ripe for failure.  Likewise, I changed
out a pot joint oil seal a few months ago.

Other than that, it's been a fine daily driver.  Just ask the folks here in
Portland, who are used to seeing it zipping across town each day:  50 miles
a day, 5 days a week.  A great daily driver, doing fine on regular
maintenance.

I didn't buy it for the attention, but it sure gets the looks; many people
have never seen a classic Mini before.  And it's so much better than driving
a 10mpg Hummer H2 which gets you a different kind of attention here (i.e.
the "bird").

Geoff

> What I was looking is at least a 1997 model, half leather would be nice two.
> Most come with alloys now anyway, so that would save me some money. Will
> have to add electric windows and central locking, but that's not a problem.
> But is it fair to compare minis to other small modern cars, like corsa`s or
> Ka`s, etc.
Jonathan M - 21 Jul 2004 23:29 GMT
> At least my ford Ka starts first time every time

Stick some Cooper stripes and Mini badge on that. After all, if it worked
for BMW...

:-)
 
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