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Angelo - 17 Nov 2004 08:30 GMT

Hi, and thanks to all again.

Tests done as suggested revealed a problem with the engine
"lower-end".
The crank moves approximately 5mm laterally!!
i.e. Using a lever I was able to move the fly-wheel in and out by
approximately 5mm. Thrust washers?

Have removed the engine and gearbox.
Took +-3 hours for everything and 1 hour!! to remove the pin on the
"collar" holding the gear lever rod connected to the gearbox.

Questions: (1)Any ideas on what I will find once I get to the
crankshaft. What parts and machining work to expect?
(2) What additional work can I do since the motor is out. ps. The head
has been "done" recently and do not want to touch it again unless
necessary.
(3) I did have quite a severe oil leak. Obviously most gaskets will be
changed, any seals which are not part of a gasket kit to replace?
It did seam that the leak (or one of them) was from the area where the
side shaft exits the engine/transmission.

Angelo (1983 1275HLE Clubman)

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David Toft - 17 Nov 2004 09:29 GMT

>The crank moves approximately 5mm laterally!!
>i.e. Using a lever I was able to move the fly-wheel in and out by
>approximately 5mm. Thrust washers?

That's about the thickness of the thrust washer!

>Have removed the engine and gearbox.
>
>Questions: (1)Any ideas on what I will find once I get to the
>crankshaft.

Big wear grooves on the flywheel side of the centre main in the block
with matching wear on the crank. I think +.030" thickness thrust washers
were/are available

> What parts and machining work to expect?
>(2) What additional work can I do since the motor is out. ps. The head
>has been "done" recently and do not want to touch it again unless
>necessary.

Lighten flywheel, balance, better cam, rebore. The head will have to
come off because of the mess from the machining.

>(3) I did have quite a severe oil leak. Obviously most gaskets will be
>changed, any seals which are not part of a gasket kit to replace?
>It did seam that the leak (or one of them) was from the area where the
>side shaft exits the engine/transmission.

This oil seal won't be in the kit, nor will the gasket under the side
cover that the seal fits into.

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The Muffin Man - 17 Nov 2004 17:36 GMT

You can get to the engine bay so you can paint everything if you want to.
Renew any rusty electrics and old fuel/brake pipes. Paint the subframe.
Paint the engine. Replace the fuel pump if it is old....

The Muffin Man

> >The crank moves approximately 5mm laterally!!
>>i.e. Using a lever I was able to move the fly-wheel in and out by
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> This oil seal won't be in the kit, nor will the gasket under the side
> cover that the seal fits into.

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angelon@absa.co.za - 30 Dec 2004 10:10 GMT

<That's about the thickness of the thrust washer!>
Boy, were you right. At first I couldn't find any thrust washers. Then
by moving the tran. around I could hear metal "sounds".
I managed to "fish" out 2 halves easily, the 3rd I battled for some
time.
The 4th had move sideways into the "diff" but also eventually came out.
The good news NO! damage to the gears.

Thanks for your comment.

Angelo

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k - 30 Dec 2004 17:31 GMT

Hi, Is there any damage to the thrust faces on the crankshaft?

Keith

> <That's about the thickness of the thrust washer!>
> Boy, were you right. At first I couldn't find any thrust washers. Then
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> Angelo

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