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Car Forum / MINI / January 2005

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Extreme rusting on late (MPi) Rover minis

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James H - 22 Nov 2004 18:42 GMT
Folks,

You have probably all heard/ know about this already but as I recently got a
nasty suprise I thought I'd share it with the group just in case.

Realising that we all appreciate that minis do rust a bit but even so I have
been caught out big time here and would like to hope that people who think
they just have some cosmetic rust (as I did) can catch it before they have
to start cutting their cars up....

Please, If you own a late reg rover mini, get the underneath looked at
properly and if requird, cleaned up, painted, undersealed and looked after
before you suffer the wallet lightening that I did.    I thought buying a
late model would have given me some better protection from rust but I was
badly wrong.

I am told that a fair number of these later model cars (mainly the MPi)
apparently left the factory with little/no paint and underseal on the bits
you can't see (ie most of the bodywork that the salt, dirt and tyre spray
gets at).  My own car was just primer in a lot of places and has rotted to
within an inch of an MOT failure in just 5 years.

I do live in the north of Scotland so the weather here is a bit hard on
your motor but even so, it's a bit of a disaster.  I have ended up having to
have about 10+ panels replaced, a load of welding and a paintjob.

Before anyone asks, I personally inspected the sorry state of affairs before
any work on the car was even discussed so I know all the work was genuinely
required.

Hope you all have more luck than me.

Cheers

James
Tim - 23 Nov 2004 01:04 GMT
when I picked my W reg car I went right over it with the dealer. And
rejected the car becuase of those issues, so he took it back and had it all
repainted under neath and inside the guards etc. Also I had it totaly
waxoiled...4 and a bit years down the road she still looks and is
perfect...mind you I did do the Iti Job and then shipped her back to NZ...we
dont have salt on our roads

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Ray - 23 Nov 2004 07:17 GMT
> Please, If you own a late reg rover mini, get the underneath looked at
> properly and if requird, cleaned up, painted, undersealed and looked after
> before you suffer the wallet lightening that I did.    I thought buying a
> late model would have given me some better protection from rust but I was
> badly wrong.

My Mpi is no different. The underside is good till now, but rust started
underneath the headlights (folded piece of bodywork), the interior near the
pedals (had some door seals leakage, causing wet spots), and underneath the
rubber of the front windscreen (quite badly, but I spotted it while the rust
was still under the rubber). So beginning of past summer started with a
de-rusting of my 4 year old car.

After derusting  I send it to a local company (Netherlands) that treated the
mini with tectyl/dinitrol All cavities, and wheel-wells, fenders, sills,
doors, subframes and a complete underside protection. Cost 350 euros but
should keep te car safer for a few years.

Bye, Ray
Jono Barspeed - 23 Nov 2004 07:56 GMT
I had this on my 2001 Classic mini 7. I had to laquer the underside when new
and waxoyle it and fill cavities etc. Even so, the headlamps have a small
spot under them, the front bumper has corrosion, and i have had to repaint
the front valance lip. I am very worried about the floor though, that anti
noise stuff hides a lot of bodywork and i am always concerned about rust
there!

Jono

>> Please, If you own a late reg rover mini, get the underneath looked at
>> properly and if requird, cleaned up, painted, undersealed and looked
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> Bye, Ray
TC - 23 Nov 2004 09:44 GMT
Ray
Please post the detials of the garage you used in NL.  TIA

> > Please, If you own a late reg rover mini, get the underneath looked at
> > properly and if requird, cleaned up, painted, undersealed and looked after
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> Bye, Ray
James H - 23 Nov 2004 20:22 GMT
I wasn't an isolated case then!  I would have been suprised if I was that
unlucky knowing Rovers reputation.

I'm planning on getting the car waxoyled every autumn from now on to try and
keep on top of it....

The one thing that still irks me more than a little is that it was purchased
through John Cooper Garages originally. You would have thought they would
have given the car the once over when they were swapping bits of the engine
and brakes over.....

You live and learn I suppose!

Cheers

James

> Ray
> Please post the detials of the garage you used in NL.  TIA
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> > Bye, Ray
fragged - 16 Dec 2004 18:10 GMT
waste of time, BMW added a special ingredient to their paint to make the
minis rust.

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> James
Fitzy - 21 Dec 2004 17:09 GMT
Sounds like a "conspiracy theory" there fragged,
I don't think our beloved minis needed any help from bmw,
Fitzy

> waste of time, BMW added a special ingredient to their paint to make the
> minis rust.
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>> James
fragged - 03 Jan 2005 01:59 GMT
hi
no really I can say without any shadow of a doubt that the paint used on
late mini causes rust. Having photographed minis straight from the
transporter Pre registration and with my own restoration of a 92 cooper it
is clear to me that there is a fundamental difference in the paint used ,

I have owned minis for over 20 years and restored many and never seen rust
worm under the paint in the boot EVER until i bought a bmw made classic
mini.

> Folks,
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> James
 
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