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Car Forum / MINI / July 2005

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Maverick - 27 Jul 2005 07:15 GMT
Hi all

I am busy rebuilding my mini. I am in the process of moving the
radiator to the boot and adding widened rear panels to accomodate air
ducts into the boot. the reason for this is that here in South Africa
the Minis are prone to overheating and I am hoping by doing this and
adding two electric fans on a larger radiator might solve the problem.
Any opinions?

Secondly, I also want to know your thoughts on engine choice. I have a
1275 lump with 40 o-size pistons. I was thinking of using this engine
with a turbocharger. My next option would be to use a 1800 16v
Volkswagen Golf engine & box(which I can get at the same price as the
turbo alone) and fitting this in the car. I know space is limited but
it's doable. I've seen a few similar conversions in the past.

This car is to be used strictly for fun, so practicality is not an
issue.

Any thoughts welcome.

Thanks
Maverick
OsiTech.Net - 27 Jul 2005 07:39 GMT
I am running an MG Metro in my Moke here in SoCal. Last week temps were in
110 degree range and no overheating.

Basically saying if engine is running with proper timing and correct
radiator with water wetter then no drastic change needs to be made.

http://austinmini.ositech.net

> Hi all
>
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> Thanks
> Maverick
Rob - 27 Jul 2005 10:09 GMT
> I am running an MG Metro in my Moke here in SoCal. Last week temps were in
> 110 degree range and no overheating.
>
> Basically saying if engine is running with proper timing and correct
> radiator with water wetter then no drastic change needs to be made.

Whats water wetter?

rm

> http://austinmini.ositech.net
>
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>>Thanks
>>Maverick
The Muffin Man - 27 Jul 2005 12:37 GMT
It is a bottled substance that claims to make your coolant work better.  I
have never needed to use it but others say that it is good in a hot engine.

The Muffin Man

>> I am running an MG Metro in my Moke here in SoCal. Last week temps were
>> in 110 degree range and no overheating.
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>>>Thanks
>>>Maverick
OsiTech.Net - 27 Jul 2005 20:02 GMT
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp?productID=53&coolantFlash=1

>> I am running an MG Metro in my Moke here in SoCal. Last week temps were
>> in 110 degree range and no overheating.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>>>Thanks
>>>Maverick
Steve68s - 27 Jul 2005 22:40 GMT
Its a product that claims to make the engine run cooler, most good
antifreeze mixed with water will make the engine run cooler anyway, the pink
VAG stuff seems even better than the cheaper blue antifreeze, & remember
they have corrosion inhibitor in them to so its a must for all year round
protection, plain water will corrode things too like the aluminium heater
valve,

Steve.

>> I am running an MG Metro in my Moke here in SoCal. Last week temps were
>> in 110 degree range and no overheating.
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>>>Thanks
>>>Maverick
Rob - 27 Jul 2005 10:11 GMT
> http://austinmini.ositech.net

Whats the funny thing in the middle -

- bit out of place don't you think :)
OsiTech.Net - 27 Jul 2005 20:00 GMT
It's a MINI and yes it belongs without the shadow of a doubt.

>> http://austinmini.ositech.net
>
> Whats the funny thing in the middle -
>
> - bit out of place don't you think :)
Maverick - 27 Jul 2005 13:04 GMT
Well, I'm sure my timing is correct, and I have a brand new 4core
radiator in it.
I am not familiar with water wetter, but i am using "anti-freeze".

I don't know how high temps get here, but between my mini, my dad's and
my sister's I can asure you that it is definitely a problem here.

P.S: just before everybody starts asking questions: Thermostat and
waterpump fine, engine flushed. Cyclinder head is not cracked.
Everything's in working order,basically.
Steve68s - 27 Jul 2005 18:07 GMT
The mini spares 2 core "super" rad cools very well, probably the best, with
a oil cooler you should be ok,

Steve.

> Well, I'm sure my timing is correct, and I have a brand new 4core
> radiator in it.
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> waterpump fine, engine flushed. Cyclinder head is not cracked.
> Everything's in working order,basically.
k - 27 Jul 2005 20:01 GMT
Hi,
A thermostatically controlled fan fitted to your existing radiator should
give you all the coolong you need.
Keith

> The mini spares 2 core "super" rad cools very well, probably the best, with
> a oil cooler you should be ok,
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> > waterpump fine, engine flushed. Cyclinder head is not cracked.
> > Everything's in working order,basically.
Steve68s - 27 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
A 2 core ST "super rad" from mini spares is cheaper than a kenlow fan &
thermostat kit! you could fit both though,

Steve.

> Hi,
> A thermostatically controlled fan fitted to your existing radiator should
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>> > waterpump fine, engine flushed. Cyclinder head is not cracked.
>> > Everything's in working order,basically.
miniman - 27 Jul 2005 22:56 GMT
> Secondly, I also want to know your thoughts on engine choice. I have a
> 1275 lump with 40 o-size pistons. I was thinking of using this engine
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> Thanks
> Maverick

The Golf engine is good but a little wide for mini subframe so you may
be needing to limit steering lock a bit once it is all in, I have seen
the Golf conversion done the easy way and it looked like someone just
lopped all the Golf components off and Welded them onto the mini front
end so they had all the VW struts and proper brakes etc, I think the
front got lengthened a bit so it all fitted in but it did look like it
worked well, you would then get a reliable 130+bhp with a powertrain
that could take it!
I wouldn't bother with the Turbo personally if you are having
overheating problems with a standard engine as they do create a lot of
underbonnet heat and you still wouldn't be able to get a reliable power
output anywhere near the VW engine without throwing money at it, not
forgetting that BL decided the turbo 'box could only just take 110lb/ft
torque reliably and so limited the boost at the lower rev ranges to
reduce warranty problems, I am not saying that you can't make them a
bit more reliable but you do need to spend  lot of money on them to get
them anywhere near proper German engineering:-)  before anyone calls me
unimaginable things, yes I do own a mini and a mk1 Golf gti and I like
driving them both, although the mini is quicker!

miniman

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