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Car Forum / MINI / August 2005Cooling Fan 2003 Cooper S
Our MINI has been overheating, and I have isolated the problem to the electric cooling fan. I've ordered the new part from a MINI dealer, but just got around to checking the service manual for the replacement procedure. According to the TIS, you have to remove the front bumper, A/C condenser and radiator to get to the fan assembly. Has anyone done this? Do you =really= have to dis-assemble the entire front of the car just to get to the fan? It appears to be so "close" that it almost seems impossible to have to remove so many parts to remove it. The car is a US spec. model. Appreciate any input I can get. Thanks! Tim/ Shame. If you had the REAL Mini the job would have been easy, like most jobs on the REAL Mini. That's the penalty for being lumbered with the FAKE Mini. K > Our MINI has been overheating, and I have isolated the problem to the > electric cooling fan. I've ordered the new part from a MINI dealer, but [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tim/ > Shame. > If you had the REAL Mini the job would have been easy, like most jobs on > the > REAL Mini. That's the penalty for being lumbered with the FAKE Mini. Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. Shame if you had a REAL life then maybe you would be able to socialise and not spend your time trying to split people into clique groups. I own both a 1275 and a new bimmer cooper s, your sort sicken me. Thankfully I see less and less of your sort, bigatory in this day and age ain't summat we really need. Thats - bigotory - you idiot > Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. > Shame if you had a REAL life then maybe you would be able to socialise and > not spend your time trying to split people into clique groups. I own both > a 1275 and a new bimmer cooper s, your sort sicken me. Thankfully I see > less and less of your sort, bigatory in this day and age ain't summat we > really need. > Thats - bigotory - you idiot >> Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> see less and less of your sort, bigatory in this day and age ain't summat >> we really need. Yeah, I can't spell - another reason to persecute someone heh ! You really are a *c.nt* of mammoth proportions. Strange how these BMW fans turn out to be such arrogant idiots when they are told this is the wrong group for their fat-arsed BMW scrapheaps. K > > Thats - bigotory - you idiot > >> Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You really are a *c.nt* of mammoth proportions. >> > Thats - bigotory - you idiot >> >> Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> Yeah, I can't spell - another reason to persecute someone heh ! >> You really are a *c.nt* of mammoth proportions. > Strange how these BMW fans turn out to be such arrogant idiots when they > are > told this is the wrong group for their fat-arsed BMW scrapheaps. I'm a big fan of all cars mate - don't see the point of twats who persecute others because they drive something different. The world would be a lot nicer place without people like you and Ryan. I say live and let live and respect other peoples choices in life. Getting on a high horse because you don't like something is childish and pointless. Like I said, I own both a german fat arse and a rusty 1275 gt, I love em both. > >> > Thats - bigotory - you idiot > >> >> Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Well, in that case keep your fatarse comments on the fatarse newsgroup and your 1275 gt comments here, then you will not cause so much bother. K Well some ones got to love them I guess.... The real thing will be 40 years on...will they still be basicaly the same and will people still love them... The juries out on that one LOL Personaly I don't have room in the garage for one, and if I did have room for a a hot hatch it would be a Renault Clio RS185 or the Megane RS225, both have more pwer, better handling and better looks, and cost a damm site less to boot LOL...but then thats only my personel opinion >>> > Thats - bigotory - you idiot >>> >> Top posting number 1 c.nt of the year. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Like I said, I own both a german fat arse and a rusty 1275 gt, I love em > both. On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:15:46 GMT, "Biffa Bacon \(mobile\)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote: > bigatory in this day and age ain't summat we really >need. .....but spelling might be useful <g>. You must understand that many of us who appreciate the real Mini find the oversixed and badly-packaged BMW fake to be an insult to the original. Consequently, we don't tend to think much of the prats who buy it. Then we read a post like yours and it confirms our opinion <vbg>. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 > You must understand that many of us who appreciate the real Mini find > the oversixed and badly-packaged BMW fake to be an insult to the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The Mini Gallery: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 Hey hey....too bad you'll never be able to catch up with us. >> You must understand that many of us who appreciate the real Mini find >> the oversixed and badly-packaged BMW fake to be an insult to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Hey hey....too bad you'll never be able to catch up with us. Well, not a great believer in racing on the road, but on the couple of occasions when one of the fake's has appeared to want to get involved I have left it for dead. Something to do with lack of driver ability and the difficulty something so fat has in getting through gaps in traffic, probably. After all, my Rover Cooper is bog standard apart from KNN filter, lcb and a single-box, big bore exhaust. Actually, come to think of it, it blows off most things on the road most of the time. Amazing how some prat who has been tailgating you can be hundreds of yards behind after one roundabout. I routinely find the Mini to be just as quick point to point in mixed driving as my Subaru Impreza Turbo....and usually more fun. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 just the reply I would expect from the owner of a over sized, over priced piece of junk. Steve. >> You must understand that many of us who appreciate the real Mini find >> the oversixed and badly-packaged BMW fake to be an insult to the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hey hey....too bad you'll never be able to catch up with us. Me thinks someone is a little jealous. Wider stance, better cornering. > just the reply I would expect from the owner of a over sized, over priced > piece of junk. > > Steve. It is wider but as far as cornering have you ever driven a real classic mini cooper S or owned one? admittedly the new Bini is quieter & smother & faster on a motorway or straight road but I doubt you or anyone else in a bmw Bini could follow me & keep up with me on a hairpin, bend or corner, as far as being jealous its just your small mind, yes even its smaller than my car, if I wanted a bmw bini I would go and buy one, one last point to note, this newsgroup is for discussing things that relate to the original mini so try & keep quiet unless you can contribute something positive. Steve. > Me thinks someone is a little jealous. Wider stance, better cornering. > >> just the reply I would expect from the owner of a over sized, over priced >> piece of junk. >> >> Steve. Just for the record, the simpleton missive from the previous poster is not representative of all classic owners. Most of my friends have both a Mini and a BINI. I am into classics myself but not because the BINI is a bad car. It is an impressive car and a very good one. It will also thrash a classis to an inch of it's life on a race track. Only clueless twits will defend a car as if they are defending there national flag. It's just a freaking car, get a grip. > It is wider but as far as cornering have you ever driven a real classic > mini cooper S or owned one? admittedly the new Bini is quieter & smother & [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> >>> Steve. > Just for the record, the simpleton missive from the previous poster is not > representative of all classic owners. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>>> >>>> Steve. I do most of my driving on the road, & enjoy being able to out drive bmw minis on A roads, roundabouts & corners, this is what I am talking about, nothing ever has passed me when I go round any corner... note.... I am not saying a 41 year old car will deffend its self against a modern car on a race track, nor am I trying to deffend the national flag, at least not today :-) Steve. I understand what you are saying but.. I had an SCCA prepared Trans Am a few years back that I used as occasional commuter car. I didn't (read couldn't) afford to drive aggressively on the street. I am sure there are many riceboy Honda Civic and Accord drivers that are going home thinking they abused me on the street. Perhaps the others were not racing you. >> Just for the record, the simpleton missive from the previous poster is >> not representative of all classic owners. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Steve. Well when they have smoke comming from the tyres & the cars going sideways I guess they aint playing trick or treat, the mini I just sold was great in a straight line too, 1460 full race ST5, I am talking about slightly modded cars here by the way, for my daily drive I use a v6 2.8 audi A4, I dont try to bull sh.t people, I also have been involved in building track cars & have raced them too, mainly bangers, dont laugh, you don't take any sh.t from someone you just take em out... head on, the destruction derbys are fun too.... Hendenford, Birmingham Wheels, Mildenhall....... Steve. ps never used minis in bangers though, 2.8 v6 mk2 Granadas.. >I understand what you are saying but.. > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> >> Steve. > Well when they have smoke comming from the tyres & the cars going sideways I > guess they aint playing trick or treat, the mini I just sold was great in a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ps never used minis in bangers though, 2.8 v6 mk2 Granadas.. CHICKEN!! LOL Keith > >I understand what you are saying but.. > > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > >> > >> Steve. I once saw a austin 1300 go in bangers unlimited at the pre 68 in Mildenhall, did not lat very long though. Steve. >> Well when they have smoke comming from the tyres & the cars going >> sideways [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >> >> >> >> Steve. Oh cool, that makes two things we have in common. I also have a 2001 Audi A4 1.8T that has been worked over a bit with Neuspeed reprogramming and such. http://audia4.ositech.net > Well when they have smoke comming from the tyres & the cars going sideways > I guess they aint playing trick or treat, the mini I just sold was great [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >>> >>> Steve. I don't tend to get involved in this sort of slanging match. Big waste of time talking to a troll but... A London bus has a much wider stance than your BMW therefore better cornering. The Muffin Man > Me thinks someone is a little jealous. Wider stance, better cornering. > >> just the reply I would expect from the owner of a over sized, over priced >> piece of junk. >> >> Steve. Sorry guys, I was just goofing with ya. But, yeah, if that London bus was only 3 feet tall, it probably would corner fantastic. And if this newsgroup is for classic mini's "only", then why isn't it called alt.autos.classicmini ? > I don't tend to get involved in this sort of slanging match. Big waste of > time talking to a troll but... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The Muffin Man Easy. When the forum was created there was no new MINI.  SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > Sorry guys, I was just goofing with ya. But, yeah, if that London bus was > only 3 feet tall, it probably would corner fantastic. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> The Muffin Man >Sorry guys, I was just goofing with ya. But, yeah, if that London bus >was only 3 feet tall, it probably would corner fantastic. >And if this newsgroup is for classic mini's "only", then why isn't it >called alt.autos.classicmini ? Because it has existed since long before the new so-called Mini and will continue to do so long after that temporary aberration has been forgotten. There is only on Mini and we don't need reminding that all of them are classics. If you want to talk about the other thing there is alt.autos.newmini. I'm told it's mostly full of whines and whinges about unreliability, atrocious build quality, catching fire and recalls, but then I can't say for sure because I've never bothered to visit that particular usenet backwater. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 If you never visited the new Mini site how do you know what they whine about? I know you adored the new Mini and you are a closet new Mini lover - lol. In any case, I bet we have more issue and whines about our old Minis: rusty a pillars, synchronizing twin carbs, Lucas electronics, etc SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >>Sorry guys, I was just goofing with ya. But, yeah, if that London bus >>was only 3 feet tall, it probably would corner fantastic. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The Mini Gallery: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 >If you never visited the new Mini site how do you know what they whine >about? What is it about 'I'm told' that you don't understand? Not very bright, are you, but then what can one expect from a top-poster. > I know you adored the new Mini and you are a closet new Mini lover - >lol. Fascinating. First saw BMW's attempt in mock-up five years ago. Wasn't terribly impressed. Didn't particularly like the phoney retro styling cues. Was very disappointed that BMW had rejected the Rover design team's plans for a highly innovative, brilliantly packaged new small car in favour of something so conventional, boring and poorly executed. It was only when I saw the finished article launched at the Goodwood Festival of Speed that I realised just how big it is....and how little room it has in the back seat or the boot. >In any case, I bet we have more issue and whines about our old Minis: rusty >a pillars, synchronizing twin carbs, Lucas electronics, etc One doesn't expect perfect reliability from a classic car - it is, after all, a 45-year-old design - however, we don't whine about it. Steel quality and finish has varied over the years, as with all marques, burt there is little excuse for the later cars rusting prematurely..... other than demoralisation caused by BMW's appallingly bad management of the Rover Group. Synchronising carbs has never been a problem for anyone with half a brain, but very few of us bother to run twin carbs on a Mini when one large one works just as well, if not better. Lucas electrics have never been much of a problem and have been unfairly demonised over the years - mostly by ignorant Americans who don't understand or maintain their cars. You really ought to find out a little bit more about your subject before you come and troll here. You are not very good at it. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 You are moron. I own a classic and you can't run me off like you run of the BINI owners, get a grip and start dealing with my presence. As far as your top posting comment let me check my give-a-crap-o meter and report back to you. And with this I ceremoniously add you to my twit file where you belong pillock. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >>If you never visited the new Mini site how do you know what they whine >>about? [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > The Mini Gallery: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 > You are moron. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Just another prat showing his true colours. will be storing him in my killfile later. K > >>If you never visited the new Mini site how do you know what they whine > >>about? [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > The Mini Gallery: > > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 I'll allow you one more outburst and then you will join your girlfriend Betty in my twit file. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> You are moron. >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> > The Mini Gallery: >> > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 >You are moron. > >I own a classic and you can't run me off like you run of the BINI owners, >get a grip and start dealing with my presence.....etc Sorry, but some people are just too easy. Please feel free to reply to this and prove once and for all that you are a total loser. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 "David Betts" <davidb@minilist.org> wrote in message why isn't it >>called alt.autos.classicmini ? > Because it has existed since long before the new so-called Mini and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > recalls, but then I can't say for sure because I've never bothered to > visit that particular usenet backwater. Heh, you make me laugh...... I polish my cars (classic & fat mini) once once a month (give or take). I bet you grease the exhaust and give your mini some *real* love every now and then. I can't believe you are so bigotted, did someone in a fat mini run your children over and kill them or something. I used to hate other kids at school because they had stuff i didn't or because they were different, but I was 10 years old then. I can only imagine your a sad little fella with no mates and the worlds biggest shoulder chip. Grow the f.ck up a worry about more important sh.t. Lol - I just don't get the hatred some of these pompous twits have for the BINI. It's just a car for Gods sakes. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > "David Betts" <davidb@minilist.org> wrote in message why isn't it >>>called alt.autos.classicmini ? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Grow the f.ck up a worry about more important sh.t. > Lol - I just don't get the hatred some of these pompous twits have for the > BINI. It's just a car for Gods sakes. No hatred. It's just another euro-hatch like there are already dozens on the market at this time. It is really nothing special, and discussion of the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat Punto or the Renault Clio. This forum is for discussion of the real Mini (not "Classic Mini", which is the name that BMW used to rebaptize the original). The BMW has absolutely no part in common with the Mini. The discussion of aircon options, 17" alloys and chili packs is just as uninteresting to Mini enthusiasts as discussion of 10" wheels, rust prevention and carb needles is to BMW (or VW or Ford) owners. Please take discussion of the New BMW Mini to where it belongs. ie: not here. "The discussion of aircon options, 17" alloys and chili packs is just as uninteresting to Mini enthusiasts" I consider myself an enthusiast and I am interested in these things. Let's Mini? SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> Lol - I just don't get the hatred some of these pompous twits have for >> the BINI. It's just a car for Gods sakes. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Please take discussion of the New BMW Mini to where it belongs. ie: not > here. > "The discussion of aircon options, 17" alloys and chili packs is just as > uninteresting to Mini enthusiasts" > > I consider myself an enthusiast and I am interested in these things. I'm also interested in cooking recipes and DIY tips for refurbing my bathroom. Does that make discussion of those topics relevant to this newsgroup? Since I am not a forum Nazi and Man shall not live by bread alone then yes you can discuss bathroom DIY tips. Perfectly okay with me. However if that runs you into an hypochondriac episode you might want to filter out offending post/posters and key names such as OsiTech.Net, MINI, BINI, BMW, NEW Just a suggestion. I'll see you chaps on Sunday off to try me luck in Vegas. If I win I promise to buy you Guys rounds of beers and a few MINIs to use as shooting target - lol. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> "The discussion of aircon options, 17" alloys and chili packs is just as >> uninteresting to Mini enthusiasts" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bathroom. Does that make discussion of those topics relevant to this > newsgroup? It is really nothing special, and discussion of > the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat > Punto or the Renault Clio. Sorry to disagree, but, the only "current" production Mini Cooper is made by BMW. That means this forum is acceptable for anyone with any Mini Cooper to participate. Get a life! > It is really nothing special, and discussion of >> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >made by BMW. That means this forum is acceptable for anyone with any >Mini Cooper to participate. Get a life! Sorry, but that simply isn't true. This forum was created for discussion of real Minis. There is an alternative forum for the discussion of the badge-engineered abomination, which does not compare favourably with the real thing in any respect. Those of us who appreciate real Minis already have a life. Those fashion victims and poseurs who have been conned by the marketers into buying the other thing thinking it is a Mini are the ones with lifestyle problems. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 > It is really nothing special, and discussion of > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > made by BMW. That means this forum is acceptable for anyone with any > Mini Cooper to participate. Get a life! This forum is NOT for the "current" production Mini Cooper (or Cooper S or One or D), but for the real Mini. The forum for the BMW MINI is alt.autos.new-mini. I and as I see others will continue to discuss both Mini and mew Mini on here and will entertain and encourage others to do so. You have an uphill battle my friend. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > One or D), but for the real Mini. The forum for the BMW MINI is > alt.autos.new-mini. > I and as I see others will continue to discuss both Mini and mew Mini on > here and will entertain and encourage others to do so. Hi, To be honest - I don't really understand why you would do that. No bigotry - really. It's not even that I mind, they do have the same name, I just don't see why an ng where only, say, half the posts are likely even to be *relevant* to the car I drive is interesting. There's an ng for the new mini - anyone wanting to discuss that I would whole heartedly recommend go there, in the same way as if I start to invite my friends to discuss sill replacements, A-Panel rust and syncing dual SUs I'd suggest they come here. It's not segregation, it's just going where you're most likely to find common interest. It's like thinking alt.autos.fwd would make a damn fine ng for discussing my car cos it's front wheel drive. If that was the case we might as well stick with alt.autos and all post in there :-) I think you'll agree it would be dreadful, irrelevant and I'd probably unsubscribe - not because I mind that some people like 205s and others like Abarths, just because there's too much in there I don't care about. It works both ways - the problems/questions/fantasies just aren't the same. There's overlap, sure, I certainly can understand someone having a wild time in their lovingly prepared Escort Mexico, it's just not that interesting to me. I like rock music, and while occasionally I find rock fans in the trendy nightclubs of my home Paris, I certainly don't think that's the best place to discuss rock music. Sure it's all music, modern R&B, blues and rock 'n' roll all share something in common I don't expect Elvis tribute bands, blues acts and AC/DC cover bands to wind up in the same places, even though I like all. Sorry for the noise - had to get it out of my system :-) Have fun, drive hard, drive well, get home safely. Kind regards, Phil a.k.a SpyderMan Reminds me of the time many years ago when I was a DJ, I did a gig which was extensively advertised as A Rock and Roll Disco. Some dimwit turned up and asked me if I had any soul! Much the same as the dimwits who post about their BMW junk here. Keith > > I and as I see others will continue to discuss both Mini and mew Mini on > > here and will entertain and encourage others to do so. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Phil a.k.a SpyderMan > It is really nothing special, and discussion of >> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > by BMW. That means this forum is acceptable for anyone with any Mini > Cooper to participate. Get a life! thats what you think, Steve. > It is really nothing special, and discussion of >> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat >> Punto or the Renault Clio. > Sorry to disagree, but, the only "current" production Mini Cooper is made > by BMW. That means this forum is acceptable for anyone with any Mini > Cooper to participate. Get a life! Hey Mark, Don't bother, you can't change these people, they're brainwashed and blinkered. If they wish to remain in their own little social clique, then let it be so. IMO I haven't seen this level of hatred since the days of the nazis or the kkk. You can only try so hard to help these people, but when their hatred for fellow human beings is so deeply rooted I think they are best left to their own devices. >> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >>> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > when their hatred for fellow human beings is so deeply rooted I think they > are best left to their own devices. The only thing Nazi I can see is the new piece BMW piece of ****, BMW is owned by a German company that used to make engines for a company that supplied them to Adolf Hitler's war machine who's Luftwaffe used to drop bombs on us, get you facts right :-) original British mini although produced by a failing company gave British workers jobs, now even BMW does things on the cheap, the new Nazi cars engine is actually a Chrysler design, produced in South America in factories that employ child slave labour, the engines are than shipped to be put in the cars here, Rover was bought by BMW just for the name Mini , you should get your facts right, no Nazis here, just patriots, Steve. >>> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >>>> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Nazis here, just patriots, > Steve. I wasn't talking about the cars, I was talking about the bigots like you who think its cool to hate people for what they drive. Persecution for being different .... ring any bells Adolf ? "South America in factories that employ child slave labour" .... what do you have to back that claim up ? Seriously, I'm intrigued. PS - When I was at school (aged 14 - 16) my evening job (5pm - 10pm) was working at Barrats Engineering. What did I do there - I worked on a press making the rear Mini Chrome ashtrays for Rover at Cowley (also child labour!!). > I wasn't talking about the cars, I was talking about the bigots like you who > think its cool to hate people for what they drive. I don't hate people. But I do hate ignorant behaviours. Like posting in the wrong newsgroup. > Persecution for being different .... ring any bells Adolf ? No, persecution for being too dumb to post in the correct newsgroup. Have you noticed how persecuted you get when you drive on the wrong side of the road? I know we are going off track but if your thesis is true, which of course I know it's not, then why did the British Empire agree to the sale? SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >>> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >>>> the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Steve. >I know we are going off track but if your thesis is true, which of course I >know it's not, then why did the British Empire agree to the sale? There is little doubt that BMW's prime purpose in acquiring the Rover Group from its then parent British Aerospace was to get their hands on Land Rover technology and the Mini brand. They made llittle or no effort to invest in Rover as a whole and actually restricted the marketing of those Rover models - in particular the excellent 75 - which they saw as being in competition with BMW. Effectively, they cherry-picked what they wanted and ran the company into the ground. They certainly don't come out of the whole exercise with any credit, but then not many people do. Even then, I doubt if anybody here would have minded if they had produced a worthwhile and innovative successor to the Mini, but they didn't. Instead of producing a brilliantly packaged small car with a Tardis-like interior they came up with a fat, conventional hatchback and then cut it short by the simple expedient of removing the boot space and rear legroom. Then they tacked on a few naff retro styling cues and called in a Mini. Can you really not see why that upsets people? Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:11:37 GMT, "Biffa Bacon \(mobile\)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote: >Don't bother, you can't change these people, they're brainwashed and >blinkered. If they wish to remain in their own little social clique, then >let it be so. IMO I haven't seen this level of hatred since the days of the >nazis or the kkk. You can only try so hard to help these people, but when >their hatred for fellow human beings is so deeply rooted I think they are >best left to their own devices. Nobody hates anybody here. We are just insulted that BMW called their fat, ugly car a Mini, which is an insult to one of the greatest pieces of design ever and THE car of the 20th century. We also feel sorry for the fashion victims who have been suckered into buying it thinking it has anything to do with the Mini. These people deserve our sympathy and understanding.....but that doesn't mean we want to read about their problems here.. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 >> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > their hatred for fellow human beings is so deeply rooted I think they are > best left to their own devices. Congratulations Biffa! Thank you for allowing this thread to reach the Godwin point! http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/ >>> It is really nothing special, and discussion of >>>>the BMW Mini in this forum is just as relevant as discussion of the Fiat [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Godwin point! > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/ Ahhh.... In that case lets keep it going a little longer. Surely an Mornington Crescent will overrule a Godwin ? Mornington Crescent...... > Me thinks someone is a little jealous. Wider stance, better cornering. > > > just the reply I would expect from the owner of a over sized, over priced > > piece of junk. > > > > Steve. I don't have my Mini now, but I would love to have seen a Bini try to outcorner it at any speed. Keith What K means to say is - try these guys - alt.auto.newmini - they might actaully give a damn > Our MINI has been overheating, and I have isolated the problem to the > electric cooling fan. I've ordered the new part from a MINI dealer, but [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Tim/ 2003 = 2 years old, why dont you get it fixed under waranty? Steve. > Our MINI has been overheating, and I have isolated the problem to the > electric cooling fan. I've ordered the new part from a MINI dealer, but [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Tim/ Thanks - I realized just after pushing the "send" button that this group is for pre-BMW Mini's. Sorry to bother you! Car has too many miles - the warranty is expired. Enjoy your Mini's!! Tim/ > 2003 = 2 years old, why dont you get it fixed under waranty? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Tim/ Actually Tim, you are in the right news group. This is alt.autos.mini......seeing as your question was about the current production mini. Which is by far more popular and better made than the "old" style. So no need to apologize. Plus ryan shaw is just a blow hole. > Thanks - I realized just after pushing the "send" button that this group is > for pre-BMW Mini's. Sorry to bother you! [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>> >>>Tim/ quote: "Which is by far more popular" yes I can see lots more posts on alt autos new mini than on here, although we are always willing to help! at least the new mini shares some things with the "genuine article type mini" quote: "Our MINI has been overheating", strange why cars..... quote: "better made than the "old" style" still have problems. Steve. > Actually Tim, you are in the right news group. This is > alt.autos.mini......seeing as your question was about the current [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >>>> >>>>Tim/ |
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