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Car Forum / MINI / September 2005How big is the fuel tank really?
Hi, being the lucky owner of a new Mini Cooper S, I am somewhat intrigued about the "real" capacity of the fuel tank. The owner's manual speaks of ca. 50 litres, but when I filled it up last time, I had already 49 litres, while the fuel gauge stood at about 1/8 (in fact the warning light went just on). So the question from the newbie is: how far can you seriously go without the risk of running empty or to damage the catalysor? Thanks Yves > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yves I'm not sure about liter capacity. In the U.S. I believe 13 gallons is the fuel tanks capacity. > Hi, > > being the lucky owner of a new Mini Cooper S, I am somewhat intrigued about > the "real" capacity of the fuel tank. The owner's manual speaks of ca. 50 > litres, but when I filled it up last time, I had already 49 litres, while > the fuel gauge stood at about 1/8 (in fact the warning light went just on). On a Mini, the total is about 34 liters, but there is some dead volume at the bottom of the tank, so you rarely fill up more than 25 liters. On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on alt.autos.new-mini. He can ask on here too as he has a Mini. But for OP, try www.mini2 for more definite and quick answer if you indeed have the fantastic new Mini.  SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on > alt.autos.new-mini. No he has something that thinks its a mini, but try as hard as it likes it will never be one Karl > He can ask on here too as he has a Mini. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >> alt.autos.new-mini. Karl, poor chap just wants to know the size of the tanks is all, he didn't profess that he wants to be a Mini, etc Now, I want a Mini but that's another thread. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > No he has something that thinks its a mini, but try as hard as it likes it > will never be one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>> alt.autos.new-mini. So sorry Karl that I thought this group would cover the new MINI but I am confident that neither myself nor my new MINI would like to be a vintage mini. Yves > No he has something that thinks its a mini, but try as hard as it likes it > will never be one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>> alt.autos.new-mini. Try alt.autos.bmw > So sorry Karl that I thought this group would cover the new MINI but I am > confident that neither myself nor my new MINI would like to be a vintage [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >>> On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on > >>> alt.autos.new-mini. >Try > >alt.autos.bmw Or, alt.autos.new-mini someone should know there! SignatureHoward Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website) or you may have over looked one thing, i guess being fairly new the thing should have all its paper work, there is normaly a small book called a handbook, look in it, Steve. >>Try >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > someone should know there! Thank you for the suggestion to look in the handbook, Steve, but this is obviously what I did in the first place. It says "about 50 litres", so I was amazed to see that 49 litres went into the tank when I filled up as the fuel gauge was still well over the zero level (close to the first mark). So the point of my question was: was I just about to run empty or is the tank's capacity far bigger than what the manufacturer announces in his specifications? I was hoping for some new Mini owners experiences who put 53 or 56 litres of petrol into the little beast... and what I got instead was a funny - though unhelpful - thread of "old vs. new" Mini aficionados. Best regards to all of you Yves > or you may have over looked one thing, i guess being fairly new the thing > should have all its paper work, there is normaly a small book called a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> someone should know there! > I was hoping for some new Mini owners experiences who put 53 or 56 litres > of petrol into the little beast... and what I got instead was a funny - > though unhelpful - thread of "old vs. new" Mini aficionados. And if you posted in alt.sci.shuttle.payloads you would also have been greeted with a thread dedicated to "how would we know?" and "why don't you try the correct group alt.autos.new-mini? There are many people there who share a similar interest. We however do not.". I am quite sure you wouldn't have stuck around so long trying to prove how quick witted you aren't. The Muffin Man "We however do not." Not true. I share interest in all things Minis. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> I was hoping for some new Mini owners experiences who put 53 or 56 litres >> of petrol into the little beast... and what I got instead was a funny - [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Muffin Man > "We however do not." > > Not true. I share interest in all things Minis. I think you will find that the people at alt.sci.shuttle.payloads do not 'share interest in all things Minis'. The Muffin Man My response was in regards to the comment that classic owners do not have interest in the new Mini. That is a fallacy. I have many friends that are classic owners and have the new Mini. We can co exist. This mule like stubbornness will not make innocent folks happen on here by accident. Let's be cordial to fellow enthusiasts and refer them to www.mini2.com other forums without getting into a wee wee measuring contest. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> "We however do not." >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The Muffin Man > My response was in regards to the comment that classic owners do not have > interest in the new Mini. Actually your response was to my comment as you quoted it in your reply. > "We however do not." > > Not true. I share interest in all things Minis. You quoted it out of context but despite that, there was one. > And if you posted in alt.sci.shuttle.payloads you would also have been > greeted with a thread dedicated to "how would we know?" and "why don't > you try the correct group alt.autos.new-mini? There are many people there > who share a similar interest. We however do not.". The Muffin Man Okay we're splitting hairs here. Have a nice weekend. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> My response was in regards to the comment that classic owners do not have >> interest in the new Mini. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The Muffin Man That is the problem. When one does a newsgroup search for mini cooper, this news group pops up. Why would anyone look for "new" in that search? When looking for Harley Davidson, for example, its all in one group. Although Harley has been through different owners its all one group, not old or new. Why would anyone think that this newsgroup should be any different. By coming here everyone should help each other out. Old or new, the name of the car is officially the same. > And if you posted in alt.sci.shuttle.payloads you would also have been > greeted with a thread dedicated to "how would we know?" and "why don't you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Muffin Man this news group was formed for classic minis only, will you be saying next that jaguar car owners should seek advice in newsgroups for cats? as I have said before mini is an abbreviation on the word minimal, meaning small, the new Teutonic wheelie bin is not small, regardless what it says on the badge :-0 Steve. > That is the problem. When one does a newsgroup search for mini cooper, > this news group pops up. Why would anyone look for "new" in that search? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> The Muffin Man NO, this group was formed for minis. There was no "new mini" or "classic mini" when it was formed. I happen to own both kinds, actually 8 old minis and one new MINI. They are very different cars. The old minis, one is a 69 cooper shell, 65 850 deluxe, 60 Morris Mini Minor Estate, 71 Pickup, 64 Austin Cooper S, 1961 Austin Mini Van. None of these run at the moment, however the Cooper S is almost running again. The Cars that do run are my 79 1100 Special and my Mini race car which competes in SCCA GT-L, although at the last race it wouldn't stop.. bad master cyl. Of course my 03 MINI Cooper S never misses a beat, has great A/C, is real fast, fun to drive,handles as good if not better than the original mini, is fun to accessorise, tons of trick parts for it, is real dependable, is real fast and in every respect is what the mini has evolved into, like it or not. Yes its different, but it has the same appeal as the old mini. In fact I am seriously thinking of buying another new Cooper S to race in SCCA Showroom Stock C. Dave Theen Mini Owner since 70 > this news group was formed for classic minis only, will you be saying next > that jaguar car owners should seek advice in newsgroups for cats? as I have [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> >>>The Muffin Man >Of course my 03 MINI Cooper S <snip> is what the mini has >evolved into, like it or not. Except, of course, that it didn't evolve. There is no evolutionary link. BMW simply appropriated the brand and stuck it on an ordinary modern car which has nothing to do with the Mini, despite a few rather naff retro styling cues. It is not even small and it is certainly not bigger inside than out, so how can it be in any sense a Mini. Doesn't matter if it's a good modern car or not. I can understand why it has found a niche in the limited US market, but in the rest of the world there is huge competition in the hot hatch class and - having driven many of them - I couldn't recommend a new so-called Mini as being in any sense value for money. Plenty about that are as much - or more - fun, quicker, cheaper and more practical in terms of rear seat and boot space. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 post here if you like, look how many people post on alt.autos new mini, not many, regardless of what you think you will get very little possetive feed back regarding the over sized, over priced, over rated car here, would it not have been better to start a flame thread instead of replying to the question "how big is the fuel tank really" & before you start I am the only one to have answered this question withthe correct answer on both boards, = 50 litres, Steve. > NO, this group was formed for minis. There was no "new mini" or "classic > mini" when it was formed. I happen to own both kinds, actually 8 old minis [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>>> >>>>The Muffin Man I will respond "positively" always to ALL Mini questions for sure. You can take that to the bank. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > post here if you like, look how many people post on alt.autos new mini, > not many, regardless of what you think you will get very little possetive [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >>>>> >>>>>The Muffin Man is that why your still bitching on the wrong thread OsiTwit.Net ? send me your address & I will post you a dummy, Steve. >I will respond "positively" always to ALL Mini questions for sure. You can >take that to the bank. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>>The Muffin Man How is this the wrong thread? And you're really thick and stupid if you think this is bitching. We haven't even started yet Sonny. By the time I am done with you all your faculties will be registering Bad Apple. You will be at marriage counseling, psychiatric session before you even know it - lol. Don't worry I already know what a dummy looks like ========> you - lol. Have a nice Sunday, QuickSilverHolic number 1,543, 657 SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > is that why your still bitching on the wrong thread OsiTwit.Net ? send me > your address & I will post you a dummy, [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The Muffin Man looks like I touched on a nerve, the dummy is here, just give me your addy, you what a pink or yellow one? Steve. ps I am away for 2 days now so dont expect rapid dummy despatch. > How is this the wrong thread? And you're really thick and stupid if you > think this is bitching. We haven't even started yet Sonny. By the time I [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The Muffin Man Damn it's like moron seminar. Off to the twit file you go mate. I await someone that can play at an intelligent level, you arte obviously an amateur. Bye and have a nice life. NOT. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > looks like I touched on a nerve, the dummy is here, just give me your > addy, you what a pink or yellow one? [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The Muffin Man >I will respond "positively" always to ALL Mini questions for sure. You can >take that to the bank. But his replies will probably be just as ignorant and inaccurate as they are when he tries to participate in threads about the real thing. Not very bright, our top poster with a sig. separator. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 > That is the problem. When one does a newsgroup search for mini cooper, > this news group pops up. Why would anyone look for "new" in that search? > When looking for Harley Davidson, for example, its all in one group. Counter-example: VW groups are split into air-cooled and water-cooled. Discussions of the New Beetle are not welcome in the air-cooled group, because the cars share nothing in common. Same here. There is nothing in common between the real Mini and the new MINI. Thus different groups. The fact that some individuals share an interest in both cars is irrelevant. They are different cars, different subjects and the topics of discussion are different. I can think of many subjects in which I have an interest besides Minis, but I will not discuss them here because they are off topic. Big Apple/OsiTech is obviously a troll who gets off on annoying people who have been on this group for years. Now we've had trolls in the past, and we will have trolls in the future. Best is just to not feed them and they'll go away by themselves. Oh will you just look at that, I've managed to get Nicks panties in a bunch - lol. BMW MINIS saves the Mini and carries the name on wonderfully. How did I do on that one? Please make my day and tell me it got you into a fit - lol. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >> That is the problem. When one does a newsgroup search for mini cooper, >> this news group pops up. Why would anyone look for "new" in that search? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > we will have trolls in the future. Best is just to not feed them and > they'll go away by themselves. And try as hard as you like, you'll still have a little dick, Karl. > No he has something that thinks its a mini, but try as hard as it likes it > will never be one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>>On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>>alt.autos.new-mini. yet an other off topic reply from a patriot of the new mini, only furthers my theory of the mental health status of new mini owners, Steve. > And try as hard as you like, you'll still have a little dick, Karl. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>>>On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>>>alt.autos.new-mini. > yet an other off topic reply from a patriot of the new mini, only furthers > my theory of the mental health status of new mini owners, > > Steve. Heard something else interesting about this BMW hheap today. Someone went to a dealer to get a rear window on a ragtop replaced on one of these things. It cost £1800. Cannot be done whole ragtop has to be replaced! keith >> yet an other off topic reply from a patriot of the new mini, only >> furthers [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > keith Nice ;-) I would expect a whole body shell for that, Steve. Which would soon rot away - lol. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > Nice ;-) I would expect a whole body shell for that, > > Steve. I didn't say anything about a new mini. Are all you old timers this stupid? > yet an other off topic reply from a patriot of the new mini, only furthers > my theory of the mental health status of new mini owners, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>>>>On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>>>>alt.autos.new-mini. Yes they are! I was not replying to you you ;-) Steve, >I didn't say anything about a new mini. Are all you old timers this stupid? > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>>>>On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>>>>>alt.autos.new-mini. In that case, I retract and apologize for my unacceptably bad manors. > I was not replying to you you ;-) > > Steve, > >>I didn't say anything about a new mini. Are all you old timers this stupid? > In that case, I retract and apologize for my unacceptably bad manors. Bloody landed gentry jumping in with both feet ;P The Muffin Man No. Only a select inbred with too much rusty ferrous oxide inhaled. Please don't let these village idiots temper your opinion of all classic owners. Most of us are welcoming to others and will refer you to the correct venue for your questions. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net >I didn't say anything about a new mini. Are all you old timers this stupid? > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>>>>On a New Mini, I wouldn't have the faintest idea. You should ask on >>>>>>alt.autos.new-mini. the bit I find amusing is that he describes himself a "lucky owner" of a BINI......guess my luck just dosn't run to a German wheelie Bin lol rather stay with my 64 1071 S, 66 1275 S 68 Mini Jem 66 Deluxe 81 "hotrod" HL and 2000 Rover Cooper S Works....I know what will hold its value better LOL funny thing here in NZ you can but 2nd hand BINI S for about 35K now (list at 55K), but a good original MK1 S can't be had for under 45K..... > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yves Yawnnnnn. When will they be on eBay to be auctioned to the colonies? SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > the bit I find amusing is that he describes himself a "lucky owner" of a > BINI......guess my luck just dosn't run to a German wheelie Bin lol [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Yves if your yawning try getting more sleep.... and what would you like to be auctioned on E-Bay?... BINIS or Minis... because you can have all the BINIS you want. personaly if I had money to burn on a new hatchback I'd be looking at a Renault Clio Sport or somthing out of Japan.....both cheaper and better performance than the chrysler engined BINI. > Yawnnnnn. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>> >>> Yves SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > if your yawning try getting more sleep.... I'll stay up but thanks for the concern. > and what would you like to be auctioned on E-Bay?... The list of geriatic Minis ranted of, you really need to pay more attention in class. > BINIS or Minis... because you can have all the BINIS you want. Thanks for your kind permission. > personaly if I had money to burn on a new hatchback I'd be looking at a > Renault Clio Sport Yawnnnn - what the hell is that? Can we get it in the colonies? I think not so it doesn't count. Binis we can get and thankfully so. >or somthing out of Japan.....both cheaper and better performance than the >chrysler engined BINI. Been there done that, Binis are better >> Yawnnnnn. >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>>> >>>> Yves Well, I would be rather "unlucky" if I wasn't happy with the new-BMW Mini (is this politically correct, gentlemen?) after just 6 weeks and oh, I feel so proud about having sparked off this pathetic thread between fundamentalists and opend-minded members of this NG. I would be even luckier if somebody had bothered to answer my initial question: how big is the petrol/gas tank really? Living in a country where petrol is still relatively cheap, it does matter on what size of the border I fill it up! So if somebody ever ran dry and filled it up with 60 litres afterwards, I would love to know about it! Oh yes, just to make a few contributors a bit angrier: imagine for a second that Morris/British Leyland/Rover had been a normally working, business-minded company in the 60's and 70's, don't you think that the mini would have gone bigger and larger and heavier over the years and decades? Just look at the Volkswagen Golf and compare the first generation and the fifth to see the difference! And if you really don't want a car to change over the decades, do yourself a favor and get a Morgan! All the best... Yves > the bit I find amusing is that he describes himself a "lucky owner" of a > BINI......guess my luck just dosn't run to a German wheelie Bin lol [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Yves Well stated Yves. The so called fundamentalist will wither and tire away after a while. Let's motor. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > Well, I would be rather "unlucky" if I wasn't happy with the new-BMW Mini > (is this politically correct, gentlemen?) after just 6 weeks and oh, I [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>> >>> Yves >Well, I would be rather "unlucky" if I wasn't happy with the new-BMW Mini >(is this politically correct, gentlemen?) after just 6 weeks and oh, I feel >so proud about having sparked off this pathetic thread between >fundamentalists and opend-minded members of this NG. Do you really? That's interesting. Says a lot about you. >I would be even luckier if somebody had bothered to answer my initial >question: how big is the petrol/gas tank really? I believe someone did, even though you asked it in the wrong newsgroup. Nice of them, that. (Of course, it is in the handbook anyway.) Oh yes, and of course all fuel gauges are inaccurate, plus there is the extra fuel you can cram into the filler pipe. Once again, the fact that you felt you needed to ask the question says a lot about you. >Oh yes, just to make a few contributors a bit angrier: imagine for a second >that Morris/British Leyland/Rover had been a normally working, >business-minded company in the 60's and 70's, don't you think that the mini >would have gone bigger and larger and heavier over the years and decades? They did come up with a bigger new-generation Mini. They called in the Mini Metro. It was intended to replace the Mini. It failed to do so because people preferred the original. It went out of production years ago. Nobody is bothering to preserve them or restore them or re-manufacture them. We use them as parts donors for our Minis. >Just look at the Volkswagen Golf and compare the first generation and the >fifth to see the difference! Well, most people who know anything about cars would see that as a bad thing. The sought-after Golf is the Mk1. Actually, VW have made an effort to get back to the original ethos with the latest version. Haven't you noticed that cars usually get worse over the years rather than better? Lardier and less dynamically satisfying. If you haven't, that says a lot about you as well. >And if you really don't want a car to change over the decades, do yourself a >favor and get a Morgan! In case you haven't noticed, Morgans have evolved steadily over the years. Plenty of changes, but they have never lost the point of the original. When you have got something right, you don't need to change it very much, do you? Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 If everybody put this Yanky w.nker in their kill file, he would just vanish as nobody would receive his pathetic childish posts. K > >Well, I would be rather "unlucky" if I wasn't happy with the new-BMW Mini > >(is this politically correct, gentlemen?) after just 6 weeks and oh, I feel [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > The Mini Gallery: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 >If everybody put this Yanky w.nker in their kill file, he would just vanish >as nobody would receive his pathetic childish posts. And where would be the fun in that? (I take it you are referring to the original poster and not myself. Very difficult to see the context when you top-post.) Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 He won't be going in my killfile. He manages to offer his opinion without resorting to grunts, threats of spam and virii, etc Motor on and post ALL your Mini questions here. SignatureQuickSilver - Visit my world Searching for a Class A Coach in SoCal http://AustinMini.OsiTech.Net > If everybody put this Yanky w.nker in their kill file, he would just > vanish [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> The Mini Gallery: >> http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 |
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