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Car Forum / MINI / December 2005New mini airbag Q...
Hi, I know there is a new mini group but it seems to get very little traffic and there is a lot of new mini stuff on here so... I'm looking for help with a recurrent problem with my gf's 2002 Cooper. It continually shows the airbag warning light and every time it goes back to the dealer they apparently replace some clips under a seat which cures it until it is valeted again (we suspect that some muppet with a vacuum cleaner attachment breaks them...). Has anyone experienced the same? Does anyone know the location of the part that is being being broken? And has anyone re-engineered it so that it doesn't happen again? Many thanks CAS This is not an unusual fault, other manufacturer's suffer with the same fault, its a faulty wiring harness,connecting the seat to the ECU, it tells the ECU that the seat is occupied and to deploy the airbag if in accident, usually when there is constant seat adjustment due to various drivers, this causes a bad connection, this is then logged as a fault in the ECU memory, this is then displayed on the dash as airbag malfunction, it sounds like the dealer just cleans the connection, then resets the ECU by wiping the memory, the next time the seat is adjusted ,the light comes back on, the dealer is obviously NOT fixing the fault, he's just resetting the ECU, Fitzy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > CAS Oh, by the way,,,, be prepared to get flamed, Fitzy > This is not an unusual fault, > other manufacturer's suffer with the same fault, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> >> CAS > This is not an unusual fault, > other manufacturer's suffer with the same fault, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the dealer is obviously NOT fixing the fault, he's just resetting the ECU, > Fitzy Many thanks for the sensible reply. I suspect that they are probably dislodging something when they valet the car... CAS >> This is not an unusual fault, >> other manufacturer's suffer with the same fault, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > CAS I suspect that they are probably dislodging something when they valet the car... either by moving the seat or the nozzle from the vacuum disturbs the connection, The dealer knows what's wrong and also knows what to do to re set the fault, but I don't think there is a service bulletin with a successful repair procedure,,, or they are not following the correct procedure I could be wrong ?? try a different dealer, or contact the manufacturer by letter, address should be in the back pages of your service handbook HTH Fitzy >I know there is a new mini group So us it. > but it seems to get very little traffic and >there is a lot of new mini stuff on here so... ....w.nker. Just because other people spam this group with their new-Mini crap you think it is ok for you to do so? There is a newsgroup for the BMW thing. If the newsgroup is crap, that only reflects the car, doesn't it? Don't keep coming here with your problems. You bought it, you live with it. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 David Betts pulled a wax crayon from his bottom a scribbled thus : >> I know there is a new mini group > So us it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > reflects the car, doesn't it? Don't keep coming here with your > problems. You bought it, you live with it. You really need to take a chill pill dude...... Why are you so angry and so full of hatred to someone who doesn't buy the same car as you ? Have you ever been to see a psychiatrist ? Did you have a particularly harsh upbringing ? Can't you just learn to get along with your fellow man and woman and put your predjudices to one side ? Commonly known as growing up and putting your playground pissing competition to bed once and for all. I think you'll find that behind the cars people are just people, you know what, you might even get along with them if you met them in a social gathering without the cars present ! Feel free to flame away David, its the usual response, but I do worry about someone with so much pent up anger.  SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >You really need to take a chill pill dude...... What could be ruder than barging into the wrong newsgroup - even when admitting that he knows it is the wrong newsgroup - and then talking about something completely irrelevant. Certainly nothing I said. We can do without these prats. He deserves everything he gets.... including being ripped off by his BMW dealer. Regards, David Betts davidb@minilist.org The Mini Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334 >>You really need to take a chill pill dude...... > > What could be ruder than barging into the wrong newsgroup - even when > admitting that he knows it is the wrong newsgroup - No I didn't, I hadn't a clue, I used to hang around on the lotus elan group a while back but that got amalgamated due to lack of activity into the generic lotus one. Which is why I explained calmly and rationally *why* I posted to this group, hardly barging I feel. > and then talking > about something completely irrelevant. alt.autos.mini... mini... *mini* *MINI* Like it or not (and your position is quite clear) the new mini is a mini. BMW own the name, the brand, Cooper the lot. Which ever way you cut it the new mini is a mini. Now it is clear that this particular enclave of usenet is for Issigonis designed minis I shall say no more about BMW ones. > Certainly nothing I said. We > can do without these prats. That's a sweeping generallisation wouldn't you say? > He deserves everything he gets.... I'm getting nothing out of the ordinary for a car... I don't have a problem with it, just a minor niggle I want to get sorted. > including being ripped off by his BMW dealer. And so far that hasn't happened, the car is *just* out of warranty... we shall see... In fact, the whole point of asking was to ensure that I knew what was wrong so I *don't* get ripped off by the dealer. I'm puzzled, tho, as to how you can tell what I do and don't deserve by my GFs choice of car...? > Regards, David Betts Nope, still none. CAS > designed minis I shall say no more about BMW ones. ...except of course to thank Fitzy and Biffa for their helpful and friendly replies. CAS >>I know there is a new mini group > > So us it. I did that too, you'll also note that I didn't cross post it. >> but it seems to get very little traffic and >>there is a lot of new mini stuff on here so... > > ....w.nker. Yup, I enjoy it and its good for the heart. There are those who say they do and those who lie... > Just because other people spam this group with their > new-Mini crap you think it is ok for you to do so? Nope, that's why I put a nice friendly little note saying why I was posting here as well as the other one. By the way you might want to check the definition of spam. > There is a > newsgroup for the BMW thing. If the newsgroup is crap, that only > reflects the car, doesn't it? Nope, it reflects the fact that the model is new and most people take them back to the dealer under warranty. There aren't enough of them out of warranty to have gained the kind of DIY support network of more established models. > Don't keep coming here with your > problems. You bought it, you live with it. Nope, I didn't. I'm just a net-head car nut trying to help my GF save a bob or two. And while we're at it, you make out that I am/we are unhappy with it which couldn't be further from the truth. > Regards, > David Betts > davidb@minilist.org Nope, no regards at all. You are quite clearly an old-mini bore with a narrow mind and a very sad outlook on life. FWIW I used to own an old mini or two and my GF used to have an old style Cooper (although one of the more recent Rover versions rather than a 'proper' one) and fortunately most of the old mini drivers and enthusiasts we've spoken to have been friendly, interested and enquisitive about the new BMW mini rather than rude, arrogant biggots like yourself. If the form here is that of "old mini only", tell me so without insults and flames. I'm guessing that you are sat there hiding behind your ADSL connection thinking yourself all big, important and clever. You fool no one but yourself... CAS When driving around in my 1989 Mini I get lots of friendly waves from fellow Mini owners and quite often smiles from Bini owners but I have never been tempted to stick two fingers up at them. On the other hand I have never been tempted to ask questions about connecting to Karoo using Fedora with my Speedtouch modem just because I didn't get an answer on the Karoo.Linux newsgroup. I personally quite like the Bini and would not object if my wife wanted one as a replacement for her aging Rover. I own and love 2 Minis but I also have a passion for RS Fords especially the MK1 Escorts but I would not dream of posting questions about them on this news group. I agree with the sentiment regarding not posting to this newsgroup, but not how it was said, it is so easy to be rude, but quite difficult to express the same opinion politely. I suggest that the correct newsgroup should be used as if everyone had this attitude the whole newsgroup thing would collapse in disarray. A useful alternative for UK Bini owners to cross post on may be uk.rec.cars.maintenance. I hope none of the above offends anyone as that is not my intention. Peter www.wannop.co.uk > >>I know there is a new mini group > > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > CAS Well Said Fitzy > When driving around in my 1989 Mini I get lots of friendly waves from > fellow [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >> >> CAS >>When driving around in my 1989 Mini I get lots of friendly waves from fellow >>Mini owners and quite often smiles from Bini owners but I have never been >>tempted to stick two fingers up at them. >>On the other hand I have never been tempted to ask questions about >>connecting to Karoo using Fedora with my Speedtouch modem just because I >>didn't get an answer on the Karoo.Linux newsgroup. >> personally quite like the Bini and would not object if my wife wanted one >>as a replacement for her aging Rover. I own and love 2 Minis but I also have >>a passion for RS Fords especially the MK1 Escorts but I would not dream of >>posting questions about them on this news group. >>I agree with the sentiment regarding not posting to this newsgroup, but not >>how it was said, it is so easy to be rude, but quite difficult to express >>the same opinion politely. >>I suggest that the correct newsgroup should be used as if everyone had this >>attitude the whole newsgroup thing would collapse in disarray. A useful >>alternative for UK Bini owners to cross post on may be >>uk.rec.cars.maintenance. Well said TJ! > >>I know there is a new mini group > > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > CAS Well who's giving insults and flames now CAS? And sorry mate as far as most of us are concerned the issigonis Mini is the only Mini we're interested in. I mean BMW can call it's hatchback whatever they like, but it isn't a Mini and never will be. Taffy >> >>I know there is a new mini group >> > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Taffy I totally and utterly agree with Taffy, there is only one mini for me, and there will only ever be one mini, regardless of what BMW say and do with badges, never the less I gave advice on a defect affecting the very car we don't recognise, because its easier to give a civil reply and pass on information, than to get in to the cut and paste slanging mach arguments that we are witnessing now, To quote Tim in NZ, "if its not a mini its just traffic" Fitzy > >> >>I know there is a new mini group > >> > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > True but David was right CAS is a w.nker ;O) Taffy I don't see what the hoopla baloo is all about anyways. Again this group is named alt.minis, not alt.Austin.minis OP, hop on over to http://northamericanmotoring.com for all your MINI needs. >> >> >>I know there is a new mini group >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > > Taffy What? Not Austin Mini...you must be American.... not all Minis where built by Austin, and not all Minis are Coopers or Cooper S...... but all Cooper & Cooper S are both Minis and either Austin or Morris..... me think that your ignorance is showing LOL >I don't see what the hoopla baloo is all about anyways. > [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] >> >> Taffy Tim don't be a stupid prick. You are not the one to give me a lecture on Minis, what I used was just an example but I should have adjusted for the close minded fucktwits like you and spelled it all out. Numbnuts. BMW MINI COOPER rocks. > What? Not Austin Mini...you must be American.... > [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] >>> >>> Taffy "Numbnuts" name says it all :-) Steve. > Tim don't be a stupid prick. > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >>>> >>>> Taffy BMW mini cooper (not deserving of capitals) PANTS k > Tim don't be a stupid prick. > [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] > >>> > >>> Taffy your an offensive little twat arn't you LOL... certainly an American, with your narrow minded views and an inability to take critque with out resorting to abuse.Another example of the stella American view point of "your either with us or against us" attitude and as to giving you a lecture on the history of the Mini..... I've owned, driven, restored Minis, Mini Cooper, Mini Cooper S, both Austin and Morris, Raced them, rallied them for the best part of 30 years....count John Cooper as a friend, correspond often with Mike Cooper his son, one of the founders of the NZ Mini club scene to list a few qualification on the subject LOL.... and was an invited guest to Longbridge on the 4th of October 2000, when the last Mini was built and driven off the production line by Lulu .....the key worlds here being "the last Mini" was built. So in the grand scheme of things I think that if anyone was to lecture you, I'd probably be a good startiing point...but to be honest to lecture is to educate, and I honestly think that your beyond learning LOL > Tim don't be a stupid prick. > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >>>> >>>> Taffy Yawnnn - stupid close minded f.ck. Save your lecture and bar brags for those that might be interested as it means nothing to me Lad. Now piss off w.nker. BTW, don't blame a whole country on just one person. Your issues are with me and not America yah leaking rusty twit. > your an offensive little twat arn't you LOL... > [quoted text clipped - 161 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Taffy typical yank, all mouth and no balls, brain up his arse K > Yawnnn - stupid close minded f.ck. > [quoted text clipped - 171 lines] > >>>>> > >>>>> Taffy Moron, and an uneducated one too, why do you think I am a Yank you inbred. > typical yank, all mouth and no balls, brain up his arse > [quoted text clipped - 194 lines] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Taffy never mind, being a yank the rest of the world takes pity on you. After all it's not your fau;lt you were born an idiot. K. > Moron, and an uneducated one too, why do you think I am a Yank you inbred. > [quoted text clipped - 196 lines] > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Taffy Yah know, even though you may say it till you are blue in the face it still won't be true. No not a Yank. BTW it takes a full blown idiot to know one. > never mind, being a yank the rest of the world takes pity on you. After > all [quoted text clipped - 227 lines] >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Taffy >I don't see what the hoopla baloo is all about anyways. > > Again this group is named alt.minis, not alt.Austin.minis > > OP, hop on over to http://northamericanmotoring.com for all your MINI > needs. <snipped to clear top postings - pet hate, sorry> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states along the lines of "For the discussion of English Mini automobiles"? G. Gordon you are absolutely brilliant Sir. If someone has these charter please post it and make it a point to post it weekly so we can all know what it what on here. Also, if someone is to post without reading the charter all we need to do is kindly refer them to it. >>I don't see what the hoopla baloo is all about anyways. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > G. > Gordon you are absolutely brilliant Sir. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> G. <re-ordered top-posts> > Gordon you are absolutely brilliant Sir. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Also, if someone is to post without reading the charter all we need to do > is kindly refer them to it. Ummm, I was trying to highlight "English" as opposed to "German".... G. >> Gordon you are absolutely brilliant Sir. >> If someone has these charter please post it and make it a point to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> to do is kindly refer them to it. > Ummm, I was trying to highlight "English" as opposed to "German".... And where is the bini made ? ;-) Mini - designed by a Turk built in blighty Bini - designed by a Kraut built in blighty SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ This is very interesting analogy, I like it. >>> Gordon you are absolutely brilliant Sir. >>> If someone has these charter please post it and make it a point to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Mini - designed by a Turk built in blighty > Bini - designed by a Kraut built in blighty >> Gordon Welsh wrote: >>>> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Mini - designed by a Turk built in blighty > Bini - designed by a Kraut built in blighty Wot - so you're saying that the classic Beetle was Mexican then? G >>> Gordon Welsh wrote: >>>>> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Wot - so you're saying that the classic Beetle was Mexican then? > G Nope, I don't recall ever saying that anywhere at all, but hold on, let me check .... Nope, just checked my post and nowhere does it mention the beatle. I'd up the doseage if I were you, the voices seem to be rather over-powering at the moment. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >> "Biffa Bacon (mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> Ummm, I was trying to highlight "English" as opposed to "German".... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I'd up the doseage if I were you, the voices seem to be rather > over-powering at the moment. Ah yes, the masterly repartee of the f'wit hiding behind a false name. Obviously you need it spelling out to you that large numbers of the classic Beetle were built in Mexico, and I was pointing out that by your logic, this most German of cars would actually be Mexican, you pillock.. G >>> "Biffa Bacon (mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> Ummm, I was trying to highlight "English" as opposed to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > you pillock.. > G f.ck me, you are some sort of prize class one c*nt aren't you. I've never hidden bhind a flase name, Dave Brown of Wantage UK thank you. You've totally misinterprated the nature of the OP. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >>>> "Biffa Bacon (mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> Ummm, I was trying to highlight "English" as opposed to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I've never hidden bhind a flase name, Dave Brown of Wantage UK thank you. > You've totally misinterprated the nature of the OP. Would you say that to my face? >>>>> "Biffa Bacon (mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>> message [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> you. You've totally misinterprated the nature of the OP. > Would you say that to my face? Yes. I'm not scared of bullies, either in the real world or those that hide behind a computer screen. But like I said, you totally misinterprated the whole nature of my OP. You were the one who put words into my mouth , and who started getting aggressive. I've always lived by the motto of live and let live. If you want to start trouble then I'll always look for a legal and non aggressive way of ending it quickly, the evidence is above and plain for all to see. Regards - Brownz SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ "If you want to start trouble then I'll always look for a legal and non aggressive way of ending it quickly, the evidence is above and plain for all to see." Good show Man and I commend you. These internet wannabe "thugs" and "hooligans" forget that we are a society of laws. Law enforcement (and Attorneys if I might add) don't take kindly to threats these days. >>>>>> "Biffa Bacon (mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>>> message [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Regards - Brownz Final comments interspersed: >>> f.ck me, you are some sort of prize class one c*nt aren't you. >>> I've never hidden bhind a flase name, Dave Brown of Wantage UK thank [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes. I'm not scared of bullies, either in the real world or those that > hide behind a computer screen. Quite how you come to the conclusion that I am bully I do not know. I feel I am quite entitled to question anyone, who comments on my mental health and any medication that I may be on, then calls me a "prize class c*nt", as to whether they would choose to be quite so offensive if they were having a discussion with me face-to-cade, rather than, as you put it (ironically enough for someone named after a Viz character) hiding behind a computer. > But like I said, you totally misinterprated the whole nature of my OP. No I didn't - you chose to challenge my opinion, poorly as it turned out, then resorted to vulgar, personal remarks. > You were the one who put words into my mouth , and who started getting > aggressive. Again I put no words into your mouth, and I have never been aggressive with anyone online - as already mentioned, your are the one being offensive and using foul language, censored as it may have been. > I've always lived by the motto of live and let live. Oh that's evident.... > If you want to start trouble then I'll always look for a legal and non > aggressive way of ending it quickly, the evidence is above and plain for > all to see. Again not sure what evidence you speak of, but like you I go all out to pursue a complaint of abuse and obscenity through official channels. G. > Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states along the > lines of > "For the discussion of English Mini automobiles"? > > G. Hum? My 2002 Mini Cooper S was built in England "by BMW". One of the reasons for purchasing this particular automobile is because I don't fit in any of the older model Mini's. I'm sort of tall. Never have I had any problems with my Cooper. No water leaks and no fires. Mark Built / Assembled in England with cheap parts sourced for all over the world, even the engine is a chrysler design built with cheap labour from south America yet the price savings aint passed onto the customers who all seem to think it all British, look at the size of it, thew only thing that is mini about it is the badge :-) its got more in common with an alegro than a classic timeless design, Steve >> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states along the >> lines of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mark Yes Steve but what has that got to do with not posting a question on here about a MINI? Where is the charter? > Built / Assembled in England with cheap parts sourced for all over the > world, even the engine is a chrysler design built with cheap labour from [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Mark I never invented the charter, I was not saying don't post anything off topic, I was just saying what I think on the large over priced car that replaced the classic mini, Steve. > Yes Steve but what has that got to do with not posting a question on here > about a MINI? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> >>> Mark I see. Then I apologize profusely. I have no problem with people not liking BINIs = prerogative, I take offense at Queen Nazis trying to police a free forum. >I never invented the charter, I was not saying don't post anything off >topic, I was just saying what I think on the large over priced car that [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>> >>>> Mark That's just the sort of reply I would expect from a yank, aint you got anything else better over there in California? you really think using more than 1 username will make us think there are several idiots on the board :-) Steve. >I see. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Mark What is this fixation with Yank this yank that? Very laughable Okay so I need to ask your permission to switch my usernames now too? > That's just the sort of reply I would expect from a yank, aint you got > anything else better over there in California? you really think using more [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Sorry, even though you used a web based program to post you message the originating ip range is the same as another fool that posts on here. Your either the same person or 2 different people form the same city, with the same service provide, with 2 of the same mental similarities. Similarity 1: to have a uncanny liking for something branded small when its infact not small. Similarity 2 to use foul language, probably something to do with you upbringing which I am sure is not Californian, American or Brittish ;-) your ip number for the message I am replying to is: 71.104.133.176 this not a proxy, The ip number from your you previous post today was: 71.104.251.164 the originating ip number that a previous un educated person, probably yourself used under a different user name was: 71.104.134.201 so you either the same person, or you are one of 2 people using Pomona Verizion Internet Services living in California. So if you want to keep up your silly little game please don't use foul language, you will give BINI drivers an even worse name than they have now ;-) Steve. > What is this fixation with Yank this yank that? Very laughable > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Okay so not just yanks but now BINI owners, neither of which I am. I truly I am enjoying this Steve. By the way your normal fine writing skills are starting to fade. Pause a bit, compose yourself before your fire of your next missives - lol. Steve - a pawn on my game. > Sorry, even though you used a web based program to post you message the > originating ip range is the same as another fool that posts on here. [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark > Okay so not just yanks but now BINI owners, neither of which I am. > What are you doing on this NG then? just piss off to alt. idiots. > I truly I am enjoying this Steve. > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mark I have a Mini? >> Okay so not just yanks but now BINI owners, neither of which I am. >> What are you doing on this NG then? just piss off to alt. idiots. [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Mark And there we have it, Godwin's Law works out. The Muffin Man >I see. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Mark >> I see. >> Then I apologize profusely. >> I have no problem with people not liking BINIs = prerogative, I take >> offense at Queen Nazis trying to police a free forum. > And there we have it, Godwin's Law works out. > The Muffin Man I dunno, does that count ? I think it was used out of context ? Do you have the link to the rules handy ? ;-) -- Cheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ its been pointed out very politely by a couple of people on here already that this is a forum/NG for the Mini. There is a separate one for MINI..... Rocky who founded this NG is a Mini man, and the charter was written to express the Mini, not the MINI. so it would seem regardless of whether folk are polite or rude to you, you just won't get the point will you.... I would suggest we call in the UN peace keepers, but being a yank you'd ignore them as well and just come back in guns a blazing! And for the record Rocky is an American.....but no one here would ever call him a yank..... >I see. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Mark Where the f.ck is the godamn charter you foolish Man. The title says alt.minis doesn't it? > its been pointed out very politely by a couple of people on here already > that this is a forum/NG for the Mini. There is a separate one for [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark well clearly the majority of Mini owners do, becuase if we wanted to discuss the MINI we would go to the appropriate News group... > Where the f.ck is the godamn charter you foolish Man. > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Don't worry Mark, what this fools don't understand is the favour you Guys with the new BINIs did to us classic owners in terms of renewed interest and value. Many of the new MINI owners are also classic owners. Still waiting to read the elusive charter. >> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states along the >> lines of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mark My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he jumps over and tells us what a bunch of f.ck wads that we are , in that news group. I guess he really doesn't want us to participate in any on-line forum at all. He says that he has freedom of speech. Well I do, also. Typical yanker. So from now on, I will just stay in this group and let him know what a f.ck wad he is. steve I have a new Mini Cooper and have never had any problems with it. I also like it. Sorry that you are such a looser that you can't accept this. I have no problem with old mini's other than an adult of my size won't fit in one. Maybe that is why you have such a small dick.... Mark yet again a BINI supporter showing his inelegance level resorting to thinking my car matches the size of my manhood, you know I would never have actually thought of insulting anyone in this way, but then again guys private parts are the last thing on my mind unlike Mark, maybe mark should take a walk in the woods with Tatty, both Dicks together, there a perfect match ;-) Steve. > My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new Mini > owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he jumps [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mark This group really has nothing to offer me anyways. But like you it's fuckwads like Steve and his moronic imbecilic fools that keeps me here with there entertaining banter. > My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new Mini > owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he jumps [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mark > This group really has nothing to offer me anyways. But like you it's > fuckwads like Steve and his moronic imbecilic fools that keeps me here with > there entertaining banter. Thats the only reason I'm hanging around. Sort of funny reading what these twits have to say. Mark > My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new > Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mark Well it's said the bigger the car, the smaller the dick, so do all BINI owners have very small dicks? I think none at all, no balls either! Taffy >>My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new >>Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Taffy Hell, my dick is so huge, I could bitch slap you with it. But on the other hand you would probably like it. Have a nice day. Mark >>>My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new >>>Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Mark LOL , don't recommend me to your optician Fitzy > >>My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new > >>Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Mark Well if you get off exposing yourself to other men that's your business I'm sure, but we don't want to know about that sort of thing here either, so maybe you should pop off to a gay newsgroup whilst your at it mate. Suits you, BINI hairdressers car. Taffy > > >>My problem is that this guy steve, one short of 69 gets mad when new > > >>Mini owners post in this group. He tells us to go to newmini and then he [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Taffy Oh and have a nice day to you too, looser. Taffy Taffy wrote:>>>> >>>>Well it's said the bigger the car, the smaller the dick, so do all > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Taffy It was just a response to your comment. I wasn't implying anything gay,just stating a fact. But the way you talk, it sounds like I am already in that kind of newsgroup. Enjoy the day. > Taffy wrote:>>>> > >>>>Well it's said the bigger the car, the smaller the dick, so do all [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > already in that kind of newsgroup. > Enjoy the day. Yeah Whatever, Taffy > Taffy wrote:>>>> > >>>>Well it's said the bigger the car, the smaller the dick, so do all [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > already in that kind of newsgroup. > Enjoy the day. To be honest I don't care if your a Dalek from the planet Skaro, (which would be nice as i'm a huge Doctor Who fan) whatever your religion, sexual preference etc, etc, but this newsgroup is for the Issigonis Mini alone. Taffy > To be honest I don't care if your a Dalek from the planet Skaro, (which > would be nice as i'm a huge Doctor Who fan) whatever your religion, sexual > preference etc, etc, but this newsgroup is for the Issigonis Mini alone. > > Taffy Not anymore. We have come to stay. > Not anymore. We have come to stay. And some people wonder why you're not welcomed... erik. He is here only because he is not welcome. Don't feed the trolls >> Not anymore. We have come to stay. > >And some people wonder why you're not welcomed... > >erik. >>Not anymore. We have come to stay. > > And some people wonder why you're not welcomed... > > erik. And some people wonder why you are an a.shole. > And some people wonder why you are an a.shole. Thought I'd emulate you for a bit, Mark. erik. >>And some people wonder why you are an a.shole. > > Thought I'd emulate you for a bit, Mark. > > erik. And wonder why you are an a.shole? O.K. live it up. >>>And some people wonder why you are an a.shole. >> >> Thought I'd emulate you for a bit, Mark. >> >> erik. > And wonder why you are an a.shole? O.K. live it up. You're losing your touch, Mark - that "comeback" was particularly poor - it makes it look like you really don't understand subtlety. You're going to have to try a lot harder than that. Not that it matters, I just can't be bothered toying with you any more, so I'm going to ignore you instead and hopefully without attention you'll go off and sulk in a different corner of the internet; and the rest of us in here who are interested in talking about non-BMW-branded MINIs can hopefully get on with just that. When I don't see your posts I couldn't care less what you're drivelling on about. erik. >>>>And some people wonder why you are an a.shole. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > erik. Thank God. Its about time. Pussy. > When I don't see your posts I couldn't care less what you're drivelling on > about. I over 6 foot and have no problems getting into a Mini.... >> Isn't there a charter somewhere, written by Rocky, which states along the >> lines of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mark > I over 6 foot and have no problems getting into a Mini.... Me tarzan, me under 6 foot .... ;-) SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ arghhh thaks Fitzy....does that mean Im nealry famouse now being quotedon a NG? By the way, the Wheels went onto the Jem last weekend at last! oh and If Lis decided she wanted a BINI, I'd go looking for a doctor to get her certified LOL...not becuase as many think that they are crap or otherwise...but becuase they are to bloody expensive and not that well made.... down here in NZ we can buy a Subaru Impretsa for 1/2 the money of a BINI, or even better still the New Renault Clio RS183.....more power, better brakes/handling/styling/ finish etc etc and about 15 grand cheaper! but I'll stick to my wee collection of Mini Cooper/Cooper S's thank you..... becuase.... "if it ain't a Mini its just traffic!!" >>> >>I know there is a new mini group >>> > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > To quote Tim in NZ, "if its not a mini its just traffic" > Fitzy So there you are Tim, where have you been hiding mate,, send some photos of the Jem, Fitzy > arghhh thaks Fitzy....does that mean Im nealry famouse now being quotedon > a NG? [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] >> To quote Tim in NZ, "if its not a mini its just traffic" >> Fitzy Im not hiding, just watching for a change LOL. I'll take some pics eventualy and send them....just got find the camera :-) > So there you are Tim, > where have you been hiding mate,, [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] >>> To quote Tim in NZ, "if its not a mini its just traffic" >>> Fitzy |
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