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Car Forum / MINI / November 2005

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MPI oil pressure

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RS - 24 Nov 2005 17:36 GMT
Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes above 100.  is this normal as i have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running.  

thanks
RS
TurboJo - 24 Nov 2005 19:33 GMT
Is it an electric one? If so it may need the voltage regulator if not you could have a sticking oil pressure relief valve.
 Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes above 100.  is this normal as i have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running.  

 thanks
 RS
Chris - 24 Nov 2005 19:46 GMT
that is fine when the engine is cold as the oil is at it's thickest then.  When the engine is fully warmed up (cooling fan kicked in at least once) then oil pressure on tickover should be 20-25 and 60+ when *under load*.  Oil pressure when cold isn't that important - unless its zero!!!

Chris
 Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes above 100.  is this normal as i have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running.  

 thanks
 RS
Fitzy - 24 Nov 2005 21:52 GMT
I agree with Chris,
what is it when warm, ?
Fitzy

 that is fine when the engine is cold as the oil is at it's thickest then.  When the engine is fully warmed up (cooling fan kicked in at least once) then oil pressure on tickover should be 20-25 and 60+ when *under load*.  Oil pressure when cold isn't that important - unless its zero!!!

 Chris
   "RS" <l400ras@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:YSmhf.2767$uR.1062@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
   Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes above 100.  is this normal as i have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running.  

   thanks
   RS
RS - 25 Nov 2005 17:02 GMT
Right, have got the oil upto temp, and its 55psi at idle (just below 1000 rpm).  driving it still goes upto around 80psi taking it to about 3500 rpm.  does this suggest a sticking pressure relief valve? if so, will it have done any harm to the engine so far, and can i fix it or is it a chuck away and buy new job?  
thanks, this group has sorted me out a few times, and dead chuffed with the people on it
RS
 I agree with Chris,
 what is it when warm, ?
 Fitzy

   "Chris" <karen.christiaan@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message news:dm55bc$bca$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
   that is fine when the engine is cold as the oil is at it's thickest then.  When the engine is fully warmed up (cooling fan kicked in at least once) then oil pressure on tickover should be 20-25 and 60+ when *under load*.  Oil pressure when cold isn't that important - unless its zero!!!

   Chris
     "RS" <l400ras@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:YSmhf.2767$uR.1062@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
     Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes above 100.  is this normal as i have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running.  

     thanks
     RS
Rob - 26 Nov 2005 05:26 GMT
>  
> Right, have got the oil upto temp, and its 55psi at idle (just below
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> the people on it
> RS

Read my other reply - check the calibration of your gauge first - then
pull the relief valve out make sure its not sticking and check the
packing washers (these alter the pressure)

>     I agree with Chris,
>     what is it when warm, ?
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>             thanks
>             RS
Fitzy - 26 Nov 2005 13:57 GMT
sounds ok to me,
if the oil pressure relief valve was sticking it would blow the oil filter
sealing ring out,
Fitzy

>>  Right, have got the oil upto temp, and its 55psi at idle (just below
>> 1000 rpm).  driving it still goes upto around 80psi taking it to about
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>>             have read haynes and it says 60 psi when running. thanks
>>             RS
Paul Prescott - 28 Nov 2005 10:16 GMT
> sounds ok to me,
> if the oil pressure relief valve was sticking it would blow the oil filter
> sealing ring out,
> Fitzy
Yeah, that happened to me (or, rather, my oil filter!) too, once.  Another
time, the gasket between the block and the spin-on filter head blew out
after years of trouble-free service.  Luckily a 4" diameter oil pressure
warning light, with a 21w bulb, in the middle of the dash board caught my
attention in time to save the engine.
With new shells and oil pump, my motor will pull over 100psi when not fully
warmed, but it soon drops...
A good synthetic oil (here we go again!) may show less, but hold a more
consistent pressure.
Over all, I gree with others that it's not likely to be a problem.
Rob - 25 Nov 2005 02:42 GMT
> Have just fitted a smiths oil pressure gauge, and am concerned about the
> pressure on fast idle at cold.  it is 80 PSI and when revved it goes
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> thanks
> RS

I think that I would get it checked with a manual test gauge screwed
into the sender hole just the verify what the new gauge is saying, is
correct. You could have a sticking oil pressure relief valve.

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