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Car Forum / MINI / December 2005

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Front speakers in full-width dash

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erik fishead - 07 Dec 2005 01:15 GMT
Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?

If so, how?

erik.
Fitzy - 07 Dec 2005 10:44 GMT
4" speakers just drop straight in,
look good also,
Fitzy

> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
>
> If so, how?
>
> erik.
erik fishead - 07 Dec 2005 20:53 GMT
> 4" speakers just drop straight in,

I've found them to be too big. Managed to get a set of the small rear ones
from a Ford Galaxy, which butt up nicely to the veneer from behind.

Then I cut the vents up and used them to make grilles from with speaker
cloth from Maplin.

erik.
The Muffin Man - 07 Dec 2005 10:53 GMT
Yes, I have a pickup and there was no need to have vent holes as they don't
have vents.  Once you have blocked up the holed in the metal work (if you
have any), you need to go and get some speakers the rights size.  Mine were
about 1/2 cm too big so I used a wood file (rasp?) I borrowed from the CDT
department at School to make the hole bigger.

BTW, teacher not pupil.

The Muffin Man

> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
>
> If so, how?
>
> erik.
David Betts - 07 Dec 2005 11:01 GMT
>Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?

Should be relatively easy as long as you can find some the right size,
I would have thought.

Personally, though, I'd rather have the fresh air vents. I find the
ability to have cool external air at face level whilst having the
heater running to be one of the great advantages that Minis - and most
older cars, for that matter - have over moderns.

Also, having the air vents and rear windows open gives a good
through-flow on a hot day without excessive wind noise when motorway
cruising.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
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Nicholas Bales - 07 Dec 2005 11:42 GMT
>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?

I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
dash. Any pods that are at 45° will fit perfectly well, even 130mm ones.
David Betts - 07 Dec 2005 14:57 GMT
>>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
>>
>I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
>speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
>dash. Any pods that are at 45° will fit perfectly well, even 130mm ones.

And I seem to remember there are some export door bins around with
very neat inbuilt front speakers.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
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Nicholas Bales - 07 Dec 2005 15:32 GMT
>>>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>>>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> And I seem to remember there are some export door bins around with
> very neat inbuilt front speakers.

Metro door bins exist in 100mm and 130mm sizes, but you have the extra
hassle of routing the wires to the door.
erik fishead - 07 Dec 2005 21:06 GMT
>> And I seem to remember there are some export door bins around with
>> very neat inbuilt front speakers.
>
> Metro door bins exist in 100mm and 130mm sizes, but you have the extra
> hassle of routing the wires to the door.

Exactly what I wanted to avoid.

erik.
erik fishead - 07 Dec 2005 20:54 GMT
> I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
> speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
> dash.

Tried 'em. Have scars on shins to prove it.

erik.
Nicholas Bales - 08 Dec 2005 11:48 GMT
>> I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
>> speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
>> dash.
>
> Tried 'em. Have scars on shins to prove it.

Wierd. I have a pair of 100mm speakers, one on both side, and I my legs
 never even touch them.

You are quite free to do whatever you want with your Mini. If putting
speakers in the air vents is your thing, then go ahead!
erik fishead - 08 Dec 2005 14:05 GMT
>>> I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
>>> speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Wierd. I have a pair of 100mm speakers, one on both side, and I my legs
> never even touch them.

I appear to have long legs in comparison to my torso, so while I have plenty
of headroom, my legs are quite bent.

Whilst the pods do give you more choice in the quality and size of speakers
you can use, and of course keep the air vents, I've never been overly keen
on putting stuff below the bottom dash rail. I even avoid the area for
switches and the like.

> You are quite free to do whatever you want with your Mini. If putting
> speakers in the air vents is your thing, then go ahead!

And if you like your pods, good for you 8-)

erik.
Fitzy - 08 Dec 2005 20:19 GMT
>>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
>
> I think it's a bit silly to sacrifice the air vents. You can easily fit
> speakers in little pods screwed into the wheel wells just underneath the
> dash. Any pods that are at 45° will fit perfectly well, even 130mm ones.

Personally I would rather block up the vent holes and fit speakers, as I
have never used the vents ,not even on a long run, I find opening the rear
windows much better,

Fitzy
David Betts - 09 Dec 2005 07:50 GMT
>>>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>>>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>have never used the vents ,not even on a long run, I find opening the rear
>windows much better,

It's a generation, nationality and sex thing. Some of us older British
gents like fresh air at face level. Women and young people don't..
They call it a draft. Manufacturers don't even bother to provide fresh
air at face level any more. They say it's only and issue with older
men in the UK. My vents are always open, whatever the weather.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
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Nicholas Bales - 13 Dec 2005 17:36 GMT
>>>>> Has anyone here ever installed speakers in place of the air vents in a
>>>>> full-width Rover dash as fitted to Mayfairs and Coopers in the 1990s?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> air at face level any more. They say it's only and issue with older
> men in the UK. My vents are always open, whatever the weather.

Dammit! I like fresh air and sitting in drafts, and I'm only 34!
David Betts - 14 Dec 2005 07:43 GMT
>> It's a generation, nationality and sex thing. Some of us older British
>> gents like fresh air at face level. Women and young people don't..
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Dammit! I like fresh air and sitting in drafts, and I'm only 34!

That's not young, mate <g>. Still, mustn't apply the general to the
specific. There will always be plenty of exceptions. Just not enough
to make the marketers put fresh air vents in modern cars.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
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erik fishead - 07 Dec 2005 20:53 GMT
> Should be relatively easy as long as you can find some the right size,
> I would have thought.

Finding the right size is not straightforward 8-(

> Personally, though, I'd rather have the fresh air vents. I find the
> ability to have cool external air at face level whilst having the
> heater running to be one of the great advantages that Minis - and most
> older cars, for that matter - have over moderns.

I just open the window. I'm normally to be found smoking a cig so having the
window open is a must.

> Also, having the air vents and rear windows open gives a good
> through-flow on a hot day without excessive wind noise when motorway
> cruising.

Ah, opening rear windows. Bane of my Mini owning life. If the seals haven't
shrunk, the locking mechanism hasn't snapped or the screws pulled out of the
B-post, they've fallen out if I've slammed the door too hard. I'd much
prefer to do without, but I can't find any suitably tinted fixed ones to fit
in their place.

erik.
miniman - 13 Dec 2005 21:52 GMT
>> Should be relatively easy as long as you can find some the right size,
>> I would have thought.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> erik.

Have you  considered mounting component tweeters up in the headlining?
I have seen it done nicely on Minis before as it gives you a bit more
flexibility to mount the mid range speakers wherever you want without
sacrificing sound quality too much!

miniman
erik fishead - 14 Dec 2005 00:46 GMT
> Have you  considered mounting component tweeters up in the headlining? I
> have seen it done nicely on Minis before as it gives you a bit more
> flexibility to mount the mid range speakers wherever you want without
> sacrificing sound quality too much!

I hadn't seen or heard of that before - however my previous experience
trying to fit a Metro roof pod (clock & map lights) resultedin the need for
a new headlining 8-(

I had considered fitting some to the dash top rail next time the
windscreen's out. However, the best fitting (and flush fitting) ones I've
found came from a certain make of car - the parts of which make up 0% of my
Mini. I'm sure you can guess the make ;-)

erik.
 
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