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Car Forum / MINI / January 2006

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Pinky - 09 Dec 2005 11:54 GMT
Maybe I'm imagining things, but since I've had my Mini, I've noticed
people driving VERY anti-socially.  The first day I drove her already
someone almost plowed into me.  My little old BOC can still scoot
pretty quickly down the motorway (I can easily go 120kph if not faster)
but people have been riding on my a$$, flashing at me and cutting me
off like crazy.  Do you guys experience this as well or am I just
noticing for the first time that it's just like this on the road?
Mick - 09 Dec 2005 14:33 GMT
"Pinky"  wrote in Red crayon:

> Maybe I'm imagining things, but since I've had my Mini, I've noticed
> people driving VERY anti-socially.  The first day I drove her already
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> off like crazy.  Do you guys experience this as well or am I just
> noticing for the first time that it's just like this on the road?

Get used to it... people think cause your in a small car that you MUST be
overtaken.. :(

You should get yourself a sticker made up just like my friend... it
say's....

"I'm driving a mini... what are you compensating for"

:D

Mick
Pinky - 09 Dec 2005 14:46 GMT
LOL Mick - not sure how that could be taken though... being a girl and
all ;-)
Mick - 09 Dec 2005 15:03 GMT
"Pinky"  wrote Spangly Pink Marker

> LOL Mick - not sure how that could be taken though... being a girl and
> all ;-)

You trying to say that you women don't have "boobie envy"??  LOL
Pinky - 09 Dec 2005 15:14 GMT
Well, whether we do or not, I'm not sure I'd want to invite people to
have a look at the merchandise either ;-)
Mick - 09 Dec 2005 15:51 GMT
"Pinky" wrote in Pink Spangly Marker
> Well, whether we do or not, I'm not sure I'd want to invite people to
> have a look at the merchandise either ;-)

Nothing saying you have too.. lol :D

My personal favorite is just totally ignoring them... it works a treat :D

Mick
miniman - 09 Dec 2005 16:49 GMT
> "Pinky" wrote in Pink Spangly Marker
>> Well, whether we do or not, I'm not sure I'd want to invite people to
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>
> Mick

It is quite normal to be driving around a roundabout or even a straight
road and have some crazy fool try to pull out directly in front and
almost crash into you, it seems that people treat mini drivers like
learner drivers most the time!

My advice is get a loud horn and bright spotlights and get used to it
as it never goes away!

miniman
Mian - 11 Dec 2005 14:57 GMT
> "Pinky"  wrote in Red crayon:
>
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>
> Mick

Goddamn! I am so getting one of those done when I get my mini
!
Tatiele - 11 Dec 2005 16:10 GMT
Okay what about someone like me that has a Moke, a Ford Expedition to carry
the tribe, a 40 foot Diesel Pusher motorhome and an A4 on my fleet. Am I
only compensating for something when I am driving the SUV but okay when I am
driving the Moke?

That is the most nonsensical sticker I have ever seen. Well right behind the
equally stupid "100% free of BMW parts" one.

>> "Pinky"  wrote in Red crayon:
>>
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> Goddamn! I am so getting one of those done when I get my mini
> !
Steve68s - 11 Dec 2005 16:29 GMT
I have a fleet too but never talk about them, I  bet you have more fun in
your moke than anyting else including a bini :-) if its  not 10 fot long it
aint fun!!

Steve.

> Okay what about someone like me that has a Moke, a Ford Expedition to
> carry the tribe, a 40 foot Diesel Pusher motorhome and an A4 on my fleet.
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>> Goddamn! I am so getting one of those done when I get my mini
>> !
Tatiele - 12 Dec 2005 01:50 GMT
Steve, we disagree on a few issues but let's celebrate this that we agree
on:

"I  bet you have more fun in your Moke than anything else including a bini "

That is a sound statement. Emmanuel sliding a cold one across the bar to
Steve.

>I have a fleet too but never talk about them, I  bet you have more fun in
>your moke than anyting else including a bini :-) if its  not 10 fot long it
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>>> Goddamn! I am so getting one of those done when I get my mini
>>> !
erik fishead - 11 Dec 2005 19:17 GMT
> Okay what about someone like me that has a Moke

ownership by choice?

>a Ford Expedition to carry the tribe

ownership by necessity?

> a 40 foot Diesel Pusher motorhome

ownership by choice?

> and an A4

ownership by necessity?

> on my fleet. Am I only compensating for something when I am driving the
> SUV

by necessity or choice?

> but okay when I am driving the Moke?

by necessity or choice?

> That is the most nonsensical sticker I have ever seen.

If people choose to:
- buy a certain car because they want a certain car with which to intimidate
other drivers and/or
- appear as the alpha male (or female) and/or
- imply that they have wealth/success due to the size of their appendages

and you happen to be in front of one of those people in your Mini (or indeed
your Moke) and they are displaying one or more of the traits above, it isn't
nonsensical. It's a bit of fun.

The only people who should feel uncomfortable with it are those who *are*
compensating for something by driving a certain car.

> Well right behind the equally stupid "100% free of BMW parts" one.

If a car is free of parts made by or for a certain manfacturer, and a
sticker is displayed detailing that fact, how is it stupid? Granted, if a
car has an engine with 16 valves, a manufacturer would typically add a "16v"
badge, rather than a "not 24v" badge - but in the case of the "100% free
sticker" it's to point out that the car has nothing to do with BMW.

erik.
Tatiele - 12 Dec 2005 01:52 GMT
Only a dunce will need to announce to other dunces that a 1966 Cooper S does
not have any BMW parts inside.

Come one Erik let's be real here.

>> Okay what about someone like me that has a Moke
>
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>
> erik.
erik fishead - 12 Dec 2005 22:22 GMT
> Only a dunce will need to announce to other dunces that a 1966 Cooper S
> does not have any BMW parts inside.

There are plenty of dunces in the world. I've seen a few in this group over
the past couple of years. Sometimes those with Anus-Humerus Differentiation
Disorder need guiding in the right direction.

There are plenty of people around who are happy that their Mini was not
built either under BMW's "guidance" or indeed in one of their factories.
There are plenty of Land Rover owners who display similar stickers heralding
that their vehicles are 100% BMW free, or more recently 100% Ford free.

There are plenty of people about who slow down for horses, or vote for a
particular party, or have visited a particular tourist attraction. Are all
these stickers nonsensical? Are they all signposts by dunces, for dunces?

> Come one Erik let's be real here.

Yes, let's. Where I work, plenty of people have commented on my Mini, and
around the time that the BMW MINI was to be released, some asked in all
seriousness if it was one of the new ones. Does that make me a dunce, as you
suggest?

erik.
erik fishead - 09 Dec 2005 17:00 GMT
> Maybe I'm imagining things, but since I've had my Mini, I've noticed
> people driving VERY anti-socially.  The first day I drove her already
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> off like crazy.  Do you guys experience this as well or am I just
> noticing for the first time that it's just like this on the road?

It could be that everyone else can't enjoy their car or their journey unless
their foot is to the floor.

It could be that they only feel big and powerful when they're behind the
wheel of their car. It almost assures their anonimity, so they can do and
say anything they like as there's no comeback; except for perhaps a single
finger salute, by which time they're quickly off on their way heading for
the next person to intimidate.

If I'm in an urban area, and someone is acting like that behind me, I like
to slow down and wave them past just before a turnoff (if it's safe to do
so). Then I turn off and they're left looking like prats in the middle of
the road.

I have to say, fewer people try to intimidate you when you're driving a 20
year old Volvo. Scratches don't matter and it bounces off most things. But
in a Mini, the best you can do is get out of their way and unless it's
turbo-equipped or bored out, there's little point in accelerating.

If you're somewhere with corners, use them. No-one looks more of a prat than
when they're tailgating a Mini then gets left for dead when a roundabout
comes up.

erik.
David Betts - 10 Dec 2005 07:28 GMT
>Maybe I'm imagining things, but since I've had my Mini, I've noticed
>people driving VERY anti-socially.  The first day I drove her already
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>off like crazy.  Do you guys experience this as well or am I just
>noticing for the first time that it's just like this on the road?

Mixed bag. You'll get more smiles and waves in a Mini than anything
else, particularly from attractive women and small children. Some men,
on the other hand, just can't stand having a Mini in front of them,
particularly if they drive what some people might categorise as
'prestige marques' - Audi, BMW and the like. I think a lot of it is
that they can't stand the fact that we are so obviously having much
more fun than them for far less money. Plus general driving standards
are getting lower anyway.

Main thing is to drive defensively and leave yourself plenty of room.
That way, it doesn't matter what the other idiots do.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334
RS - 10 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT
Quoting David Betts

> Plus general driving standards are getting lower anyway.

i disagree.  the driving test has become far more rigorous, with the theory
and hazard perception before the practical.  How many people who passed say
25 years ago could confidently say they could pass todays test.   what you
are talking about and experiencing is the same percentage of idiot drivers
compared to considerate drivers, just with high numbers on the roads today
meaning a higher number of idiots.

in closing, there will always be minis and always be idiots

RS
David Betts - 12 Dec 2005 07:29 GMT
>Quoting David Betts
>
>> Plus general driving standards are getting lower anyway.
>
>i disagree.  the driving test has become far more rigorous, with the theory
>and hazard perception before the practical.

Perhaps. Still only qualifies you to drive on urban roads in daylight
at low speed. How many people remember any of the theory anyway, let
alone know how to apply it.

> How many people who passed say
>25 years ago could confidently say they could pass todays test.

Very few, which is why we should all have to take regular tests, and
of a much higher standard than the current driving test. Personally, I
would like to see a requirement to reach advanced standard within
three years or your licence taken away, plus refreshers every 10. A
driving licence should be a privilege, not a right.

> what you
>are talking about and experiencing is the same percentage of idiot drivers
>compared to considerate drivers, just with high numbers on the roads today
>meaning a higher number of idiots.

A higher number of tailgaters, certainly. Almost everyone I see is
driving too close to the car in front almost all the time.

>in closing, there will always be minis and always be idiots

Plenty more can be done to get the idiots off the road.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334
Taffy - 12 Dec 2005 16:50 GMT
> >Quoting David Betts
> >
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> The Mini Gallery:
> http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334

I like to surf on the Minifinity website too and sadly there's been a lot of
car crashes involving Mini's lately and in all the cases the Mini was not to
blame but although nobody got hurt, the car's are badly damaged and in one
case written off.  Here it is, if the link works that is:-

http://www.minifinity.com/modules/PNphpBB2/files/thumbs/t_picture_020a.jpg

Take care out there.

Taffy
fragged - 02 Jan 2006 22:08 GMT
fit an oil injector to squirt oil onto the exhaust pipe and smoke the
fukkers out..

I own a classic cooper and a seat leon cupra and the w.nkers still try to
ride my tail in the cupra, that is until i get up to 140mph  then they
bottle it :-)

fragged

> Maybe I'm imagining things, but since I've had my Mini, I've noticed
> people driving VERY anti-socially.  The first day I drove her already
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> off like crazy.  Do you guys experience this as well or am I just
> noticing for the first time that it's just like this on the road?
 
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