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Car Forum / MINI / December 2005

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drum brakes not releasing

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RS - 24 Dec 2005 16:13 GMT
~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just blead the brakes, and the rears work perfectly.   The fronts lock as the wheel is spun and the brake pedal is pressed, but then do not release.  After a few seconds the wheel can be just turned.  I have fitted the springs correctly, and the shoes are adjusted to "fully off" the drum.  I am suspecting a blockage in the pipes or the presure reducing valve underneath the master cylinder.  am i right, or does anyone else have an idea?  as i say, rears are great.  cheers

RS
** - 24 Dec 2005 17:26 GMT
 ~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just blead the brakes, and the rears work perfectly.   The fronts lock as the wheel is spun and the brake pedal is pressed, but then do not release.  After a few seconds the wheel can be just turned.  I have fitted the springs correctly, and the shoes are adjusted to "fully off" the drum.  I am suspecting a blockage in the pipes or the presure reducing valve underneath the master cylinder.  am i right, or does anyone else have an idea?  as i say, rears are great.  cheers

 RS

 Hi,
 I would be inclined to check that the front pistons are not sticking in the cylinders, which could well happen if the brakes have not been used for a long time.

 Keith
RS - 24 Dec 2005 17:44 GMT
   ~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just blead the brakes, and the rears work perfectly.   The fronts lock as the wheel is spun and the brake pedal is pressed, but then do not release.  After a few seconds the wheel can be just turned.  I have fitted the springs correctly, and the shoes are adjusted to "fully off" the drum.  I am suspecting a blockage in the pipes or the presure reducing valve underneath the master cylinder.  am i right, or does anyone else have an idea?  as i say, rears are great.  cheers

   RS

   Hi,
   I would be inclined to check that the front pistons are not sticking in the cylinders, which could well happen if the brakes have not been used for a long time.

   Keith

   sorry, forgot to say that i have replaced all 6 wheel cylinders and bleed nipple, and never-siezed all threads.  with the shoes off i can push the cylinders back with my fingers.   one strange thing, when i push one back, the other pops out see-saw like.  to reset them both to rest i have to crack the bleed nipple and push both back.  

   any more ideas?
miniman - 24 Dec 2005 23:58 GMT
>     ~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini =
> pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just =
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>     any more ideas?

A blockage in the pipes could cause the problem as there would be too
much restriction stopping the fluid from going back up the pipe under
vacuum.

And as it is both wheels then it has to be from the tee on the subframe
back up to the pressure valve and master  cylinder, is the pipe
squashed there?

Try disconnected the pipe and bleeding through to wash out any dirt.

Another simple thing.... Try the brakes with the master cylinder cap
off, the vent might be blocked.

If that doesn't cure it then It may be worth changing the master
cylinder, as I don't think that the biasing valve would have such an
effect although you never know!

Happy Xmas!

miniman
** - 25 Dec 2005 00:03 GMT
> >     ~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini =
> > pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just =
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> miniman

Hi,
Another problem I have met in the past is where the lining of the brake hose
comes away and blocks the brake hose.

Keith
Fitzy - 25 Dec 2005 00:13 GMT
>> >     ~As a few of you will remember, i am putting a 1981 X reg mini =
>> > pickup back on the road, that has been stood for 8 years.  I have just
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> Keith

Try opening the brake pipe at the calliper, then at the flexi hose then at
the "T" junction, then the regulator, and so on,
this would indicate where the problem is , but I would go for the
regulator,,,
Fitzy
Merry Chrimbo
David Betts - 25 Dec 2005 08:06 GMT
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Not trying to be difficult, but your line lengths are set so long that
your material is unreadable without considerable effort. Also your sig
attachment shouldn't really be there in a text-only newsgroup. Some
ISPs will not propogate your posts as a result. Both problems should
be easy to deal with.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
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