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Car Forum / MINI / January 2006

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Adjustable suspension? any thoughts?

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Ben & Claire - 11 Jan 2006 21:41 GMT
Ive got a track day coming up in 4 weeks on Anglesea. (Feb 18th if anyone is
going to be up that way)

My friend from Liverpool who got me my 1.3 mpi for free wanted a track day
for his birthday, He wanted to take his type R Civic, but his company wont
let him for some strange reason! So I thought fairs fair, you got me the car
the least you can do is have some fun in it.

Ive already bought some Yoko 165/60r12 tyres for it, as it was on 145s. Next
I was thinking about upgrading the suspension before I take it up north.

has anyone had any experience of negative camber lower arms and/or rear
radius arm brackets?
Do they really impove the handling? Its pretty good anyway but the rear end
does seem a little loose under high speed cornering?

Ive got access to a 40 grand tracking system that does caster/camber/toe
front and rear, so if I do decide to go fully adjustable has anyone got any
tried and tested settings?

Ben
Chris - 11 Jan 2006 22:04 GMT
> Ive got a track day coming up in 4 weeks on Anglesea. (Feb 18th if anyone
> is going to be up that way)
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>
> Ben

Good move with the tyres, What you want to do is fit 1.5 degree bottom arms,
this is a sensible amount for a car that will spend most of its life on the
road.  While you're fitting them you should fit a set of uprated tie bars,
not forgetting poly bushes for both lower arms either.  The tie bars will
help steady the car enormously under heavy braking.  A set of decent dampers
wouldn't go ammiss either - I prefer Spax adjustables but some people find
them a bit too stiff even on lower settings.  With my 1.3MPi, I fitted
HiLo's to the back only and set the ride height to make the car sit level.
I did fit rear camber brackets but removed them as I found I got horrendous
rear tyre wear with them - not good when you do 8000miles a year!  Apart
from regular greasing of the nipples there wasn't much else worth doing.

If anything the 1.5 deg bottom arms made the car easier to steer at parking
speeds aswell!?  While fitting HiLo's, if you do, it cant hurt to pop in new
knuckle joints aswell - even on a newer MPi car.  My prefered retailer for
most of these bits was minispares.  I bought a set of uprated tie bars for a
friend from a trader at a mini show, didn't realise till we got home that
the thread for the really big nut on the front was a really obscure pattern.
Took ages to get the right nuts for them!

HTH

Chris
Kelley Mascher - 13 Jan 2006 01:30 GMT
Since you have the tracking measurement equipment, measure the current
settings on the car. Then get the negative castor arms you need to
make the two sides equal. Minis seldom are the same side to side from
the factory. Vizard recommends 1.5 degree negative arms. Since the
Mini usually comes from the factory with 1 degree positive camber this
means you should be shooting for a final measure of 0.5 degrees
negative camber.

If you plan on lowering the car, lower it first with the standard
lower arm and then measure the initial camber. Lowering the car
increases negative camber.

Cheers

Kelley

>Ive got a track day coming up in 4 weeks on Anglesea. (Feb 18th if anyone is
>going to be up that way)
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>Ben
 
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