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Car Forum / MINI / January 2006

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MKII Headlight wiring

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Jmanis2 - 24 Jan 2006 10:01 GMT
Someone has changed the wiring in my 1995 Mini and now I'm having tons
of problems tracking down the wireing problems.  Can someone please
explain the colors for the front harness?  The diagram says that the
lows should be blue/white but I have two blue/white wires in the front.
 Same for the glow lamps (EU model) they should be Red/Green but I have
both Red/Green and Red/black.  Where are the fuses that control the
lamps?  I've found one relay on the back left of the engine compartment
but is there another for the driving lamps or the high beams?  Finally,
unrelated to the lights, can anyone tell me what the 5 or so inline
fuses that are in the center back of the engine compartment are?

I'm located in Stuttgart Germany, if anyone is near by and wants to get
together please drop me a line

Jeff
RS - 24 Jan 2006 13:24 GMT
Hello Jefff,
mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.

You say yours is a 1995, but the subject of the post is MkII - is it a MK
IV?
i will assume it is a 1995,

The DIPPED BEAM (ie lights with no blue warning light on in the dash), are
coloured BLUE with a RED tracer (small red line).  These wires run round the
left hand side of the engine by as you look at it, the end up underneath the
bonnet slam panel, right in the middle of the grille under some metal clips.
from here it slipts both ways to each headlight.
The main beams are the BLUE and WHITE ones ie with the blue warning light in
the dash on.  these run in the same place as the others.

The connectors at the grille as metioned above, are rubbish.  they are poor
quality deteriorate easily as the spray from driving hits them.  Pull the
connectors out and clean them up with wet and dry/ sandpaper etc and
replace.  Also do the EARTH ones - plain black wires.

do not know what you meant by "glow lamps" - never heard of anything like
these. sorry

The fuses that control the lights are either in a 4 fuse box mounted on the
engine bulkheard, or in a 24 fuse box near your right knee when driving
(under the dash, near the wheel arch)

RS

> Someone has changed the wiring in my 1995 Mini and now I'm having tons of
> problems tracking down the wireing problems.  Can someone please explain
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>
> Jeff
Taffy - 24 Jan 2006 14:01 GMT
> Hello Jefff,
> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
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>
> RS

I should think that if your Mini is a 1995 model it will have the 4 fuse box
mounted on the engine bulkhead (late 1996 onwards it got fitted inside the
car with the Twin-Point Mini) and the in-line fuses at the back of the
engine compartment are for things like the heater, cabin light, stereo,
auxilliary electric fan, dim-dip relay etc.  These should be highlighted in
the manual?

Taffy

> > Someone has changed the wiring in my 1995 Mini and now I'm having tons of
> > problems tracking down the wireing problems.  Can someone please explain
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> >
> > Jeff
MiNiFrEeK! - 24 Jan 2006 23:13 GMT
I think the "glow lamps" are what we call sidelights coz they do just about
glow ...

>> Hello Jefff,
>> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
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>> >
>> > Jeff
Jmanis2 - 25 Jan 2006 00:08 GMT
Taffy thanks for the reply.  I have the 4 fuse box at the bulkhead just
as you described but unfortunately do not have the manual.  Regarding
the inline fuses below, can you tell me what each one is based on their
colored wires?  My current symptoms are that only my high beams are
functioning (so cleverly I rewired their power to the lows.  Ok not very
clever but effective).  Additionally my radio is 100% w/o power.  All of
the fuses appear to test ok with a test lamp but the fact that I can
only get power to the lights I think that the power to the dim-dip relay
 could be the problem.  Where is that relay located at?  Which fuse is
it using?  I really appreciate the help, loving the little mini but I've
had it just a short time and don't know the lay of the car yet.  If you
need any help t/sing a DeLorean let me know, I had that vehicle nearly
memorized before Katrina took it from me! :)

Jeff

> I should think that if your Mini is a 1995 model it will have the 4 fuse box
> mounted on the engine bulkhead (late 1996 onwards it got fitted inside the
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>
> Taffy
Taffy - 25 Jan 2006 14:03 GMT
> Taffy thanks for the reply.  I have the 4 fuse box at the bulkhead just
> as you described but unfortunately do not have the manual.  Regarding
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>
> Jeff

Well the dim-dip relay is situated just under the dash rail on the right
hand side of the car, it's an orange block mounted on a clip, I'm almost
sure there's a dim-dip device behind the clocks too but I can't imagine
these would be giving you any problems, as for the exact colours of the fuse
wire's i'll have to dig out my manual and Haynes manual.

Taffy

> > I should think that if your Mini is a 1995 model it will have the 4 fuse box
> > mounted on the engine bulkhead (late 1996 onwards it got fitted inside the
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> >
> > Taffy
Taffy - 27 Jan 2006 16:16 GMT
Ok here goes!

4 fuse box on the bulkhead:

1     1-2  35amp  Brake Lights, Reverse Lights, Direction Indicators & Rear
Screen Demister.
2     3-4  25amp  Horn, Headlamp Flasher, Brake Failure Circuit & Radio
Memory.
3     5-6  25amp  Heated Blower Motor, Windscreen Wipers, Washer Motor &
Instruments.
4     7-8  15amp  Side & Tail Lights, Panel Lights & Instruments.

1-2 These circuits only operate with the ignition switch at position "II".
5-6 These circuits only operate with the ignition swithc at position "I" or
"II".

I compared the above with my own handbook relating to my 1990 mainstream
Rover Mini Cooper 1.3 and the latest Haynes manual which covers all Mini
models and the only thing I could find confusion with was in the Haynes
manual it states that on later models fitted with the 4 fuse box (probably
injection models) both 1-2 & 7-8 circuits operate the headlight dim-dip
relay, surely a mistake?

Ok now the Line Fuses, luckily the wire colours are highlighted in my own
manual and they should also relate to yours too, but I only have 4 listed
and the Haynes manual only lists 4 but neglect to state the wire colours.
If you have a fifth, maybe that's for a power operated sunroof?  If you have
one fitted of course, if so that may be just white as it was on my sisters
Mini that came fitted with a sunroof (1992 Mini British Open Classic), but
anyway here's the 4 I have:

15amp - Purple/Orange Wire
Hazard Warning & Interior Lamps

15amp - Brown/Orange Wire
Dim-Dip Lighting

10amp - Blue/Orange Wire
Rear Fog Guard Lamps

15amp - Blue/Red Wire
Auxiliary Cooling Fan

Hope that helps.

Taffy

> > Taffy thanks for the reply.  I have the 4 fuse box at the bulkhead just
> > as you described but unfortunately do not have the manual.  Regarding
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> > > Taffy
TurboJo - 25 Jan 2006 20:01 GMT
Have you checked the in line fuses behind the carb? Can't remember what they
are for just that they are a pain to get at.

> Taffy thanks for the reply.  I have the 4 fuse box at the bulkhead just
> as you described but unfortunately do not have the manual.  Regarding
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> >
> > Taffy
Jmanis2 - 25 Jan 2006 00:00 GMT
Thanks for the reply.  The car is definietly a 1995 and as someone else
pointed out there are 4 fuses located on the engine bulkhead.
Unfortuately I do not have a manual for the car but have ordered one
from minimania and expect it in a little while.  I've checked the wiring
diagrams available on minimania (see
http://www.minimania.com/images/wiring/ if you've not already).  Its a
good tecnical diagram but lacks in that it does not illustrate the
connections to the fuse box or the relays.  Until the manual gets here
if you could help a bit more by telling me what the 4 fuses control in
the car and what amp they should be that would be great.

As for the glow lights I refered to, on the European models (which might
 be all models in this year) the headlights have a small incandescant
bulb in the side of the reflective dish that illuminate when the parking
lights are on, presumably to let you leave you lights on overnight when
parked on these narrow roads out here and not get hit in the middle of
a dark night.

Jeff

> Hello Jefff,
> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
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>>
>>Jeff
Nicholas Bales - 25 Jan 2006 09:50 GMT
> Hello Jefff,
> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
>
> You say yours is a 1995, but the subject of the post is MkII - is it a MK
> IV?
> i will assume it is a 1995,

I think for some reason, Germany used the MkII name until the end of
production. Something to do with TUV certification.
Fitzy - 25 Jan 2006 12:09 GMT
>> Hello Jefff,
>> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
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> I think for some reason, Germany used the MkII name until the end of
> production. Something to do with TUV certification.

Have you checked the group of bullet type connections ,tucked up behind the
bonnet slam panel

Fitzy
RS - 25 Jan 2006 12:08 GMT
> Have you checked the group of bullet type connections ,tucked up behind
> the
> bonnet slam panel
>
> Fitzy

Think that is what RS suggested in the first reply.

RS
Fitzy - 25 Jan 2006 20:48 GMT
What about checking the Bullet connectors, tucked up inside  the bonnet slam
panel, these always cause a problem once disturbed,
Fitzy

>> Hello Jefff,
>> mini electrical faults are always a pain to track down.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I think for some reason, Germany used the MkII name until the end of
> production. Something to do with TUV certification.
Fitzy - 26 Jan 2006 14:40 GMT
My Apologies,
I failed to read all of the initial posts and replies,
RS suggested the bullet connectors under the slam panel,
I, also suggested the same bullet connectors in a much later post,
once again,,,, sorry
Fitzy

> What about checking the Bullet connectors, tucked up inside  the bonnet
> slam panel, these always cause a problem once disturbed,
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>> I think for some reason, Germany used the MkII name until the end of
>> production. Something to do with TUV certification.
RS - 26 Jan 2006 16:05 GMT
> My Apologies,
> I failed to read all of the initial posts and replies,
> RS suggested the bullet connectors under the slam panel,
> I, also suggested the same bullet connectors in a much later post,
> once again,,,, sorry
> Fitzy

Quite alright, i can see you were worried that the original poster wouldnt
know the term "slam pannel" etc.  Jmanis2 gets the best info , thats what
matters.
RS
 
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