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Car Forum / MINI / April 2006

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Citroen Xsara WARNING

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Fitzy - 19 Apr 2006 12:47 GMT
Warning
Make your own decisions from this information,
here's what happened to my neighbour,

1999/2000 Citroen Xsara saloon Diesel,
Just left motorway, and pulled in to his road and "twang"
snapped coil spring on o/s/front , the sharp edge of the spring then pierced
the tyre,  in this case, all this happened at low speed, so no injuries,
just vehicle damage, contacted Citroen dealer who said
Although there is a recall on Xsara Picasso, and other models,, " front
spring collars are being fitted"

The dealer will no doubt tell you the collar is to prevent the spring
slipping off the strut,
I think its to prevent the spring piercing the tyre, in the event of spring
breakage,
According to the dealer, the Xsara is not included in this recall, and yet
suffers the same defect,
anyone know of any other Xsara's breaking front coil springs and damaging
tyres,
Fitzy
Pete M - 19 Apr 2006 16:34 GMT
> Warning
> Make your own decisions from this information,
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> anyone know of any other Xsara's breaking front coil springs and
> damaging tyres,

My sister in law had a similar thing happen to a Megane Coupe a couple of
years ago.

I think they're quite closely related, but ICBW.

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Myles Sutherland - 19 Apr 2006 19:49 GMT
>> Warning
>> Make your own decisions from this information,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> I think they're quite closely related, but ICBW.

It happened on an 18month old, 25k miles Ford Focus recently too - my mate
was driving but only about 30mph, fortunately.

Myles
Fitzy - 20 Apr 2006 11:36 GMT
I have spent 35 years in the motor trade, in all that time I suppose I have
replaced 8 or 10 broken coil springs, but in the last 3 years I have
replaced around 25 to 30, springs ?
poor quality metal and speed bumps (traffic calmers) perhaps,
Fitzy

>>> Warning
>>> Make your own decisions from this information,
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Myles
vinfionda@ntlworld.com - 20 Apr 2006 15:47 GMT
Happened to my son's Berlingo. Pulled away from house, O/S spring broke
and went through tyre. Whilst it was being winched onto the breakdown
truck, N/S spring broke and went through tyre! The springs were under
warranty, but he had to buy the new tyres.
Fitzy - 20 Apr 2006 17:05 GMT
Thanks for your feedback people,
I wonder how many more are out there,
???????????????????
Fitzy

> Happened to my son's Berlingo. Pulled away from house, O/S spring broke
> and went through tyre. Whilst it was being winched onto the breakdown
> truck, N/S spring broke and went through tyre! The springs were under
> warranty, but he had to buy the new tyres.
rickety - 20 Apr 2006 17:57 GMT
while I owned a Ford Windstar van in Canada, there was a recall to fit
a collar on the front springs. The recall clearly said it was to
prevent the tire damage by the broken spring. It appears as though that
is believed to be the major issue when the spring breaks.
Mick Whittingham - 20 Apr 2006 19:08 GMT
>while I owned a Ford Windstar van in Canada, there was a recall to fit
>a collar on the front springs. The recall clearly said it was to
>prevent the tire damage by the broken spring. It appears as though that
>is believed to be the major issue when the spring breaks.

My 406 estate, both front springs snapped within a month of each other
last year but snapped "safely" at the top. When they snap at the bottom
there is a problem as the spring tapers at that end and that allows the
end to pierce the tyre.
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SP - 21 Apr 2006 00:15 GMT
> > while I owned a Ford Windstar van in Canada, there was a recall to
> > fit a collar on the front springs. The recall clearly said it was to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the bottom there is a problem as the spring tapers at that end and
> that allows the end to pierce the tyre.

<pokes stick into Mick>

When did you move into Merseyside, then?  <G>

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Apollo - 21 Apr 2006 19:34 GMT
>I have spent 35 years in the motor trade, in all that time I
>suppose I have replaced 8 or 10 broken coil springs, but in the
>last 3 years I have replaced around 25 to 30, springs ?
> poor quality metal and speed bumps (traffic calmers) perhaps,
> Fitzy

Chinese steel!

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TurboJo - 20 Apr 2006 18:40 GMT
Why is this being cross posted to the mini newsgroup, can't you use
alt.autos.citroen?

I can understand the cross post to alt.autos.new-mini as the Xsara looks
similar is about the same size and comes in a diesel version.;)

> Warning
> Make your own decisions from this information,
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> tyres,
> Fitzy
Fitzy - 20 Apr 2006 20:49 GMT
Hi TurboJo
sorry mate,
the cross posting was initially to inform as many people as possible, as
there are quite a few mini people with Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, cars that
should be aware of this defect, and vice versa,
Regarding the new mini crew,,, well I am an engineer, and regardless of what
car it is, I will give advice if I can, some one there might just have one
of these defective cars at home, its about being aware,
doesn't mean I like BMW Minis, ;-)
Fitzy

> Why is this being cross posted to the mini newsgroup, can't you use
> alt.autos.citroen?
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>> tyres,
>> Fitzy
Barspeed and his magical Mini - 20 Apr 2006 23:57 GMT
Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet, yet
the person who said it is in this group.....

> Hi TurboJo
> sorry mate,
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>>> tyres,
>>> Fitzy
madmax - 21 Apr 2006 02:02 GMT
> Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet, yet
> the person who said it is in this group.....

You mean to tell me that I am a member of this little club. Wow, I am so
honored. I will go hit my head against the wall, until I kill off enough
brain cells to chat with you dimwits.
Fitzy - 21 Apr 2006 09:02 GMT
> Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet,
> yet the person who said it is in this group.....

Yes your right Jono,
have you noticed....................
hes frantically pinballing at the moment, insultind and
bouncing of everything, trying to find a way to get a response,
Fitzy
Barspeed and his magical Mini - 21 Apr 2006 12:39 GMT
Who you are talking about?

>> Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet,
>> yet the person who said it is in this group.....
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> bouncing of everything, trying to find a way to get a response,
> Fitzy
Fitzy - 21 Apr 2006 15:08 GMT
> Who you are talking about?

Exactly ,,,, nice on Jono
Fitzy
Madmax - 21 Apr 2006 20:37 GMT
>>Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet,
>>yet the person who said it is in this group.....
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> bouncing of everything, trying to find a way to get a response,
> Fitzy

If you are referring to me, it seems to be working. You just can't help
yourself, can you?
Fitzy - 21 Apr 2006 21:24 GMT
>>>Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet,
>>>yet the person who said it is in this group.....
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> If you are referring to me, it seems to be working. You just can't help
> yourself, can you?

Who said that ??????
Barspeed and his magical Mini - 21 Apr 2006 21:56 GMT
Dunno, like a distant echo from the past, or smell.......

>>>>Someone said that people in this group are the dumbest on the internet,
>>>>yet the person who said it is in this group.....
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Who said that ??????
madmax - 22 Apr 2006 04:05 GMT
> Dunno, like a distant echo from the past, or smell.......
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>>Who said that ??????

It's still working. You guy's are so lame. You just don't listen to
fizzy do you.
Madmax - 20 Apr 2006 20:50 GMT
> Why is this being cross posted to the mini newsgroup, can't you use
> alt.autos.citroen?

Because the guys in the mini group are the dumbest bunch on the
internet. They have small minds, to match their cars.
Steve68s - 21 Apr 2006 12:44 GMT
Troll exposed, I have just found a picture of this idiot, the backwater pipe
is the big give away ;-)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6306/max6eo.jpg

When he said cooper I didn't know he meant a barrel...

Steve.

>> Why is this being cross posted to the mini newsgroup, can't you use
>> alt.autos.citroen?
>
> Because the guys in the mini group are the dumbest bunch on the internet.
> They have small minds, to match their cars.
Taffy - 21 Apr 2006 12:54 GMT
Well at least we don't have small genatalia like you Marky Boy, oh and
Steve that picture is hysterical mate!  Sad person with his sad car
LOL.

Taffy
Madmax - 21 Apr 2006 20:40 GMT
> Well at least we don't have small genatalia like you Marky Boy, oh and
> Steve that picture is hysterical mate!  Sad person with his sad car
> LOL.
>
> Taffy

sh.t, you don't even know what genitalia is. You are a 45 year old
virgin, because your cock has never developed into something usable.
Poor Taffy has to sit down to piss.
Taffy - 23 Apr 2006 00:30 GMT
Wrong on all counts mate and I'm nowhere near 45 either, so go back to
shagging your sheep and smoking your pipe.

Taffy

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>
> > Well at least we don't have small genatalia like you Marky Boy, oh and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> virgin, because your cock has never developed into something usable.
> Poor Taffy has to sit down to piss.

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madmax - 23 Apr 2006 07:49 GMT
> Wrong on all counts mate and I'm nowhere near 45 either, so go back to
> shagging your sheep and smoking your pipe.
>
> Taffy

Wrong on all counts moron. I don't have any sheep and don't smoke a
pipe. This was part of your grand investigation of me. Can't you guys
get ANY facts right? Your no Sherlock.
TurboJo - 23 Apr 2006 16:00 GMT
His no Sherlock?

>> Wrong on all counts mate and I'm nowhere near 45 either, so go back to
>> shagging your sheep and smoking your pipe.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> This was part of your grand investigation of me. Can't you guys get ANY
> facts right? Your no Sherlock.
madmax - 24 Apr 2006 02:57 GMT
> His no Sherlock?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>This was part of your grand investigation of me. Can't you guys get ANY
>>facts right? Your no Sherlock.

I guess when you have a question about masculinity, "his" would be a
good term, also hers or shemale.
TurboJo - 24 Apr 2006 20:49 GMT
Come on get with it.

Your - possessive pronoun
You're contraction of you are

>> His no Sherlock?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I guess when you have a question about masculinity, "his" would be a good
> term, also hers or shemale.
madmax - 25 Apr 2006 04:00 GMT
> Come on get with it.
>
> Your - possessive pronoun
> You're contraction of you are

Sorry, you're grammatically correct.
Madmax - 21 Apr 2006 20:42 GMT
> Troll exposed, I have just found a picture of this idiot, the backwater pipe
> is the big give away ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Steve.

Again, Steve, I never click on you links. So, enjoy on your own time.
It's wasted on me. I'm sure that in your little mind, it is amusing.
Taffy - 23 Apr 2006 00:38 GMT
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> > Troll exposed, I have just found a picture of this idiot, the backwater pipe
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Again, Steve, I never click on you links. So, enjoy on your own time.
> It's wasted on me. I'm sure that in your little mind, it is amusing.

Well your a liar Marky boy, because you certainly clicked on mine in "How It
Should Be".  But anyway it amused us all here because that image has
captured you down to a tee and now we'll never be able to take you seriously
again!  Not that we did before anyway!  LOL

Taffy

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madmax - 23 Apr 2006 07:46 GMT
>Again, Steve, I never click on you links. So, enjoy on your own time.
>> It's wasted on me. I'm sure that in your little mind, it is amusing.

>Well your a liar Marky boy, because you certainly clicked on mine in
>"How It
>Should Be".  But anyway it amused us all here because that image has
>captured you down to a tee and now we'll never be able to take you
>seriously
>again!  Not that we did before anyway!  LOL

>Taffy

>Taffy

Uh, no. If you could read you would have noticed that I was talking to
Steve. I am not a liar, and you, are an idiot.
 
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