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Car Forum / MINI / July 2006

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2005 Mini Cooper Convertible Top won't close

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Tom - 15 Jul 2006 19:45 GMT
I have a 2005 Mini Cooper Convertible. Top was down. When the top was
raised, it stopped after pushing the roof frame forward to the
windshield frame. Then it stopped, and the red light started flashing
rapidly. That was repeated again a day later.

This morning, I went to the garage to see if the top could be latched
and sunroof closed manually. I found the screw and turned it according
to the Mini Owners manual. I could not however, figure out how to remove
the cover from the center of the cross-bar so the manual crank could be
used. Three of us worked for almost two hours to decipher the poorly
written instructions in the manual and correlate those to the actual
product and could not figure it out.

Has anybody out there got a suggestion for closing the top for the trip
to the dealer as rain showers in middle America are always a possibility?

TIA for any advice or assistance.
Steve68s - 15 Jul 2006 22:01 GMT
>I have a 2005 Mini Cooper Convertible. Top was down. When the top was
> raised, it stopped after pushing the roof frame forward to the
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>
> TIA for any advice or assistance.

Its a year old, tell them to come & get it,

Steve.
Fitzy - 15 Jul 2006 23:05 GMT
Firstly there should be some kind of crank handle, or release mechanism from
the power system,,  for this kind of failure,
VW have one, so I assume BMW should have the same ??
secondly I agree with Steve 68s "Tell the dealer to come get it"
call BMW N.A. tell them about your problem, see what they suggest,
Hope this helps, ;-)
and finally,,,,,,,, your in the wrong NG,
Fitzy

>>I have a 2005 Mini Cooper Convertible. Top was down. When the top was
>> raised, it stopped after pushing the roof frame forward to the
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>
> Steve.
madmax - 16 Jul 2006 07:39 GMT
> Firstly there should be some kind of crank handle, or release mechanism from
> the power system,,  for this kind of failure,
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> and finally,,,,,,,, your in the wrong NG,
> Fitzy

Some BMW mechanic you are fitzy.
Martin - 16 Jul 2006 08:45 GMT
Fitzy, That's only cos no one replied in the proper group. Does that sum up
BINI owners! or should we not generalise. i.e. you are an exception to that
rule.

Martin
> Firstly there should be some kind of crank handle, or release mechanism
> from the power system,,  for this kind of failure,
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>>
>> Steve.
Taffy - 16 Jul 2006 12:17 GMT
Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?

Taffy
Barspeed and his magical Mini's - 16 Jul 2006 14:30 GMT
I have seen in the past that this group offers advice to anyone thats
asking, providing there is the knowledge to help that is.
Think that many Mini owners have a sound basis to help solve problems with
most cars....

> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>
> Taffy
Brownz (mobile) - 16 Jul 2006 20:12 GMT
> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>
> Taffy

Nope, we're all out driving ours in the lovely sunshine, rather than being
hunched up over the PC at home, fnarrr fnarrr.

Had a lovely weekend, Whitby for Fish n Chips at the Magpie Cafe followed by
a blast round the N.Yorks moors yesterday.
Hospitallity at the British Touring Cars today at Croft.
Just got back, fcuk me have I got one serious case of drivers one armed
suntan .... ;-)

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Cheerz - Brownz
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Fitzy - 16 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
>> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>
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> Just got back, fcuk me have I got one serious case of drivers one armed
> suntan .... ;-)

but did you do it in a proper Mini Brownzie,
if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
Fitzy
Brownz (mobile) - 17 Jul 2006 00:26 GMT
>>> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>>
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> if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
> Fitzy

I did it in a *mini*, which is at the end of the day what counts ;-P

(Tell you what though, I'm glad I had aircon, not just for my sake - I
thought my mum was going to flake out at one point today watching the racing
!)

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Taffy - 17 Jul 2006 19:33 GMT
> > but did you do it in a proper Mini Brownzie,
> > if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
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> Cheerz - Brownz
> http://www.brownz.org/

Oh so your Mini has air-conditioning too does it?  So it's one of those
Japanease imports then eh?  Mind you my Pug 405 has air-con and to be
honest I don't care for it that much as we use it for about 2 weeks a
year and even then we use it sparingly as it does sap the power a bit
but then because the Pug is black it absolutely soaks up the sun.
Where as our Mini has a white roof, so it's always cool anyway.

Taffy
Tim - 24 Jul 2006 00:51 GMT
hey Fitzy thats my line ! Plagarist! LOL

>>> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>>
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> if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
> Fitzy
Fitzy - 24 Jul 2006 09:47 GMT
I know Tim.......... but is says it all...... a mini is a mini..
and as you say, anything else is just traffic... ;-)
Fitzy

> hey Fitzy thats my line ! Plagarist! LOL
>
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>> if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
>> Fitzy
Tim - 26 Jul 2006 06:16 GMT
mostly, but Im prepared to modify that to accomodate the Jem of course...and
maybe the 911 I've just bought myself.....been promiseing myself a classic
pre robot one for a while and found a tidy 72 Targa last month with all the
righ attributes!

next problem how do I hide it from the wife LOL!

>I know Tim.......... but is says it all...... a mini is a mini..
> and as you say, anything else is just traffic... ;-)
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>>> if not,,,,,,, then you where just traffic mate.... ;-)
>>> Fitzy
Madmax - 17 Jul 2006 14:50 GMT
> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>
> Taffy

NO....it just proves that he came to the right newsgroup. Again you are
wrong...there is a bigger following for the BMW mini than there ever was
for the old mini. Just stating fact.
Dave Theen - 19 Jul 2006 00:31 GMT
> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>
> Taffy

Taffy,  I have had old Mini's since 1969 when I was in high school. I
own 8 of them now including a 61 Van, 60 Morris woody wagon, 64 Austin
Cooper S, 65 Austin 850 deluxe, 69 morris, 70 Pickup, 71 shelled SCCA
Racer, 79 1100 Special. I also own a 2003 Mini Cooper S and a 2006 Mini
Cooper S SCCA race car. If you want to see a following of mini people I
suggest you log on to  http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/  and see
how many people are on line at that time. I was just on and there were
865 people on at that time. I love minis, all kinds ( including mini
skirted girls), but the new Mini's are great cars, the old Mini's are
great cars. I don't post much here, but read daily. The bickering that
some of the "old mini" people start in this newsgroup is unbelievable.
Why don't we all behave like adults?

Dave
madmax - 19 Jul 2006 04:03 GMT
>> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>
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>
> Dave

Dave,
You are a good man! Enjoy all of you auto's.
Taffy - 19 Jul 2006 14:42 GMT
Well many haven't accepted the BMW BINI/MINI in the UK mainly because
of BMW's attitude really and that's why this newsgroup, like many Mini
Forums/Clubs here only cater for the real thing 1959-2000.

And most of the bickering is coming from your part of the world too
Dave, but we're big enough to ignore it much like we ignore BMW and
it's smallish hatchback.

Taffy
Madmax - 19 Jul 2006 17:13 GMT
> Well many haven't accepted the BMW BINI/MINI in the UK mainly because
> of BMW's attitude really and that's why this newsgroup, like many Mini
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>
> Taffy

Look who's got the attitude problem. LOLAT
Fitzy - 20 Jul 2006 23:36 GMT
>> Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>
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>
> Dave

Hello Dave,
Fine collection of mini there my friend, obviously started collecting long
before BMW launched the MINI,
I support your choice of vehicles, especially the classics,
but you must agree the two vehicles are completely different,
the only thing they share are the badges,
I do believe there should be two separate news groups,
after all , would you come in to this group with a BMW MINI
question, I don't think so, but most people in this group are what I would
call DIY experts when it comes to classic minis,
and they could advise you on how to take it apart and rebuild it, and throw
in a few tips on how to make it better,
it doesn't matter how many times I hear someone say "they are all minis" I
will still shake my head and say "No" sorry they are totally and completely
different vehicles,
certain people including myself feel that we are defending the group,
afterall , its been here many years before BMW bought
the rights to MINI, and Cooper,
Like I said earlier, I support your choices of vehicles, and this includes
the BMW MINI you own, as its your personal choice,
but it belongs in alt.autos.newmini,

Fitzy
Fitzy - 21 Jul 2006 03:58 GMT
>>>Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>>
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>
>  

Well they DO share the same badges, so I guess they should share the
same newsgroup after all.

Fritzy
Fitzy - 21 Jul 2006 21:49 GMT
>>>>Just proves there's no real following for the BINI then really?
>>>>
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>
> Fritzy

Who is Fritzy !!
LOL
Looks like someone with sh.t for brains is cloning again,
Fitzy
Taffy - 21 Jul 2006 17:28 GMT
Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
the Issigonis variety of Mini.

But the BMW hatchback is something completely different and therefore
has no place here.

Taffy
Fitzy - 21 Jul 2006 18:48 GMT
> Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
> the Issigonis variety of Mini.
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>
> Taffy

Taffy,
You are completely different and are still here. If BMW mini's are
bini's then issigonis mini's are sisigonini.
Fitzy - 21 Jul 2006 21:55 GMT
>> Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
>> the Issigonis variety of Mini.
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> You are completely different and are still here. If BMW mini's are bini's
> then issigonis mini's are sisigonini.

Hmmm,
no signature ?
check the properties,
LOL
sh.t for brains again,,, KILLFILED
Fitzy
Taffy - 21 Jul 2006 23:26 GMT
sh.t for brains Yanky Boy is still hanging around like an unwanted slut
is he, oh well kill-file the pond life from the other side of the pond
then everyone!

Taffy
Fitzy - 22 Jul 2006 23:23 GMT
> sh.t for brains Yanky Boy is still hanging around like an unwanted slut
> is he, oh well kill-file the pond life from the other side of the pond
> then everyone!
>
> Taffy

Proud to be a Yanky Boy too! At least I have a full set of teeth! Thank
you for the slut compliment, yes sometimes it is true. I really enjoy
sleeping around with the girls, not you limey sissies though! LOL...

Fizzy
Fitzy - 21 Jul 2006 21:52 GMT
> Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
> the Issigonis variety of Mini.
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>
> Taffy

Spot on there Taff,
Fitzy
Fitzy - 22 Jul 2006 15:50 GMT
>> Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
>> the Issigonis variety of Mini.
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> Spot on there Taff,
> Fitzy

Lets face it !!!
What could a BMW Bini owner/enthusiast possibly gain from
visiting this NG..
Fitzy
Fitzy - 22 Jul 2006 23:19 GMT
>>>Nicely put Fitzy and of course on this newsgroup we generally support
>>>the Issigonis variety of Mini.
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> visiting this NG..
> Fitzy

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