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Car Forum / MINI / October 2003

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Buying some tooling

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The Muffin Man - 29 Aug 2003 12:16 GMT
Just been to have a look at my shell and it is escalating into a full on
shiny thing rebuild - if you are spending a shed load on the shell there is
no point in bolting rusty things to it ;)

Anyway, I was wondering about buying a sand blasting cabinet and there is
one you can get for about 120 quid with hose and gun.  Does the sand go into
the gun or do you need something to go with it?

Thanks a lot

The Muffin Man
Steve - 29 Aug 2003 17:05 GMT
> Just been to have a look at my shell and it is escalating into a full on
> shiny thing rebuild - if you are spending a shed load on the shell there is
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>
> The Muffin Man

The grit (sand is no longer legal to use, I understand) sits in the hopper
at the bottom of the cabinet. Then there is a dip tube that the gun sucks
the grit up through. When the grit is fired out it simply falls back into
the hopper.

I have to say, we struggled with one of the cheaper setups. And we had a
very big compressor. The air consumption is quite high, so if you only have
a small compressor, check the requirement carefully before you buy. You will
also require plenty of the ceramic nozzles. They wear out at an alarming
rate and the efficiency goes off very quickly.

Another thing worth doing, is to buy some 2mm or 3mm sheet rubber and line
the back and side walls of the cabinet. These budget units are quite thin
walled, and you are grit blasting in them!!

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The Muffin Man - 29 Aug 2003 17:39 GMT
> The grit (sand is no longer legal to use, I understand) sits in the hopper
> at the bottom of the cabinet. Then there is a dip tube that the gun sucks
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> the back and side walls of the cabinet. These budget units are quite thin
> walled, and you are grit blasting in them!!

Thanks for the advice Steve.  The compressor is a friends so I will check
with him how big it is but I know it aint small.  The rubber is good advice,
I was wondering how it didn't blast a hole in itself.

I am not looking at blasting for a living with it merely components for one
car - wiper motor bracket - radius arms and the like.  Do you think a
cheaper unit would do for that - if not, what would you recommend instead?

Cheers

The Muffin Man
Drew - 30 Aug 2003 10:00 GMT
>>The grit (sand is no longer legal to use, I understand) sits in the hopper
>>at the bottom of the cabinet. Then there is a dip tube that the gun sucks
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>
> The Muffin Man

If all you are doing is removing rust from some small components, you
might try the Finnigans rust remover gel and/or dip (avail' from
Halfords etc.) The stuff works very well, I did an old brake drum that
had sat in my garage for about 5 years. It ended up like a new one!!!

Failing that, I think Machine Mart have the small blast cabinets.

HTH
Drew
The Muffin Man - 30 Aug 2003 10:25 GMT
Cheers I will try that stuff

The Muffin Man

> >>The grit (sand is no longer legal to use, I understand) sits in the hopper
> >>at the bottom of the cabinet. Then there is a dip tube that the gun sucks
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> HTH
> Drew
Chris Morriss - 30 Aug 2003 16:01 GMT
>If all you are doing is removing rust from some small components, you
>might try the Finnigans rust remover gel and/or dip (avail' from
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>HTH
>Drew

I buy phosphoric acid from an industrial chemical supplier.  It needs
diluting with about 5 parts water to one part acid and it is excellent
to drop brake drums and such like in.  Far, far cheaper than the
phosphoric acid dips from Halfords!
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Steven Clarke - 01 Sep 2003 00:18 GMT
Gents,

here in oz we have a mob called endeavour foundation - they offer closed
workshops for disabled people- anything that I need blasted or chromed - i
take there - quite cheap and it supports a worthy cause.

Steve (Sunny Cairns - ah i can feel the build up coming - temps and humidity
rising!)
> >If all you are doing is removing rust from some small components, you
> >might try the Finnigans rust remover gel and/or dip (avail' from
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> to drop brake drums and such like in.  Far, far cheaper than the
> phosphoric acid dips from Halfords!
Graham & Ronda Lyons - 02 Oct 2003 03:08 GMT
Here in Australia, the farmers all keep a 44 gallon drum of molasses that is
an amazing stripper and very cheap compared to proprietary strippers.  Mate
of mine uses it for stripping parts from old 2CV's he gets from Europe to
restore.
GrahamL

Graham
> >If all you are doing is removing rust from some small components, you
> >might try the Finnigans rust remover gel and/or dip (avail' from
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> to drop brake drums and such like in.  Far, far cheaper than the
> phosphoric acid dips from Halfords!
Makka - 02 Oct 2003 05:24 GMT
graham what is this majic sudstance?

makka
> Here in Australia, the farmers all keep a 44 gallon drum of molasses that is
> an amazing stripper and very cheap compared to proprietary strippers.  Mate
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> > to drop brake drums and such like in.  Far, far cheaper than the
> > phosphoric acid dips from Halfords!
Graham & Ronda Lyons - 04 Oct 2003 02:47 GMT
> graham what is this majic sudstance?

Just had words with the man, Makka.  Apparently it's cheap and effective for
stripping metals of rust, paint and grundge but slow.  It's a soak for a
week or two deal. The material is standard mollasses used for stock feed.
You dilute it 1:10 with water then sit back and wait.

GrahamL
Makka - 05 Oct 2003 04:57 GMT
cool have to talk to a mate who has a farm and see if he has it got a shell
here i have to strip some time soon
makka

> > graham what is this majic sudstance?
> >
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> GrahamL
ops - 15 Oct 2003 15:39 GMT
> cool have to talk to a mate who has a farm and see if he has it got a shell
> here i have to strip some time soon
> makka

Sugar Cane extract!

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>>GrahamL
ph.burel - 29 Aug 2003 21:15 GMT
Sorry, Muffin Man, i wrote your name with a "g"
> Just been to have a look at my shell and it is escalating into a full on
> shiny thing rebuild - if you are spending a shed load on the shell there is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> The Muffin Man
The Muffin Man - 29 Aug 2003 23:20 GMT
That is not a problem - I make loads of mistakes thinking faster than I can
type and my native language is English not French ;)

The Muffin Man

> Sorry, Muffin Man, i wrote your name with a "g"
> > Just been to have a look at my shell and it is escalating into a full on
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> >
> > The Muffin Man
 
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