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Car Forum / MINI / August 2006

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DJ - 18 Jul 2006 16:43 GMT
Hi All,

I was at an Autojumble the other day and found a clean, new looking Lucas
Sports Coil DLB105 Gold for 3 pounds. Looking at the deal, it was worth a
gamble so I bought it and fitted it to the mini when I got home. All works
fine and in actual fact the car runs noticeably better.

I showed a friend the other day and he said that I had the wrong coil as my
car is a ballasted mini being an 1989 (post 1984 mini) and that it shouldn't
work!

I have been looking through all my books and the internet and cannot find
any information on the difference apart from how to convert to the older
non-ballasted version.

Can Anyone tell me if I do in actual fact have the wrong coil and if so
should I remove it or convert to non-ballasted?

I really am confused as he said that I should have the Lucas DLB110 but on
many sites the spec is the same as the DLB105 that I already have.

Any ideas to help enlighten me?

Cheers,

Dick Jones.
Fitzy - 20 Jul 2006 22:56 GMT
Hi DJ
The ballast resistor system, works like this,
On cranking the coil gets boosted by 12v from the starter,
this helps to start the engine from cold,
when the engine fires up, the alternator feeds the ballast resistor keeping
the engine running, but the ballast resistor drops the working voltage down
to 9v, this helps prolong the life of the points,
any 12v standard coil will do the job, but check that you have not fitted a
transistorised high voltage coil,
HTH
Fitzy
> Hi All,
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> Dick Jones.
$ - 22 Jul 2006 21:45 GMT
> Hi DJ
> The ballast resistor system, works like this,
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> HTH
> Fitzy

I have to correct you here.  On a ballast resistor ignition system the coil
is a 9Volt item and has a different resistance to a 12V coil - hence you
shouldn't mix and match them.

Ballast resistor ignitions are used to make the car easier to start.  When
you crank the car over on the starter you are drawing such a load from the
battery that it's voltage drops quite a bit (remember the alternator is NOT
spinning upto speed yet).  This can make standard 12V points systems not
give a good spark when cranking.  On a ballast resistor system the ballast
resistor takes 3V of the 12V and leaves 9V for the coil.  The theory goes
that, on a ballast resistor system, even when the voltage drops when
cranking it won't drop lower than the 9V of the coil.  The coil can then
produce a good spark even when cranking or if the battery has lost a cell.
It is true that with only ever 9V across the points that they will last
longer, another side effect.

Dont fit a ballast resistor type coil - 9V - to a non ballast car.  It will
overheat and break down as it's primary coil circuit has a much lower
resistance.

Chris
Fitzy - 22 Jul 2006 22:42 GMT
>> Hi DJ
>> The ballast resistor system, works like this,
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> Chris

I stand corrected, you are right Chris,
Fitzy
Madmax - 24 Jul 2006 15:23 GMT
>>>Hi DJ
>>>The ballast resistor system, works like this,
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> I stand corrected, you are right Chris,
> Fitzy

Great mechanic fritz! I would never have you near any of my auto's.
Pedro - 09 Aug 2006 21:32 GMT
The difference Mr Madmax, is that Peter contributes a great deal to
this NewsGroup, whereas you Sir, currently, do not.

Do you still have that fine looking yellow Moke. Now that is a car to
be proud of.

Tell us how it is doing, and what plans do you have for it in the
future?

Pedro

> >>>Hi DJ
> >>>The ballast resistor system, works like this,
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> Great mechanic fritz! I would never have you near any of my auto's.
Barspeed Beta Version 2.0 - 09 Aug 2006 22:32 GMT
Sweet Honey Said:-  Great mechanic fritz! I would never have you near any of
my auto's.

I would love to get close to your supple nuts and give 'em squeeze
baarspeed and his homosexual needs - 10 Aug 2006 01:16 GMT
> Sweet Honey Said:-  Great mechanic fritz! I would never have you near any of
> my auto's.
>
> I would love to get close to your supple nuts and give 'em squeeze

Speedy, you are in the wrong group. You need alt.homosexual, so I have
included it in my reply. Please take your sexual frustrations to that
group. They may be able to help you.
Pedro - 10 Aug 2006 01:11 GMT
> The difference Mr Madmax, is that Peter contributes a great deal to
> this NewsGroup, whereas you Sir, currently, do not.
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> Pedro

Yellow moke? Don't know what the f.ck you are talking about. As far as
contributing.....I never plan to.
Fitzy - 10 Aug 2006 09:30 GMT
>> The difference Mr Madmax, is that Peter contributes a great deal to
>> this NewsGroup, whereas you Sir, currently, do not.
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>>
>> Pedro

Hi Pedro
reading the postings,  I assume S.F.B is still snipping,
I cant see him, Killfiled it ages ago,
he,s not that good folks, we have had better  more intelligent trolls, he
isn't consistent, he comes in, rattles his cage, then goes away again,
presumably to re charge his mental battery and come back with something he
thinks is original, unfortunately all he does is create a blip in a thread,

There is a very high percentage of people in the uk who believe Americans
are not worth the time of day,,,  this troll confirms that belief, he is a
failure to himself and he cant see it,
Killfile it, when it comes back Killfile it again, its easy,
the energy it takes to be the troll and bounce from thread to thread,
cloning, is greater than our effort to simply Killfile, I don't think he's
worked that one out yet,
Fitzy,  LOL
Barspeed Beta Version 2.0 - 10 Aug 2006 12:11 GMT
Oh but I love him so much Fitzy ;-)
Its a wonder he doesnt get Israel to troll this newsgroup, I mean being
American you would assume he would get someone else to do his dirty work?

>>> The difference Mr Madmax, is that Peter contributes a great deal to
>>> this NewsGroup, whereas you Sir, currently, do not.
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> worked that one out yet,
> Fitzy,  LOL
barspeed and his homosexual needs - 10 Aug 2006 16:07 GMT
I know that I can always get a rise out of fritz and speedy. You just
can't help yourselves, can you?

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