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Car Forum / MINI / September 2006Oh Dear What A Pity, Never Mind! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxfP1-8c-M Taffy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxfP1-8c-M > > Taffy Cracking. You'd have never walked away from that if you were in a rover / bl /bmc mini though.  SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxfP1-8c-M >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You'd have never walked away from that if you were in a rover / bl /bmc mini >though. A race prepped one, with a roll cage and full harness, and wearing a skid-lid? I bet you would, though I wouldn't like to try it... Cheers, Colin. Its a Bini adventure! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxfP1-8c-M > > Taffy you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to less peripheral mass ! david crossan britain's premier sustainable designer also a classic mini has a much lower centre of gravity, ive seen them spin horizontally when hitting a tyre wall rather than flip several times..... > you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to less > peripheral mass ! > > david crossan > > britain's premier sustainable designer >> you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to less >> peripheral mass ! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > spin horizontally when hitting a tyre wall rather than flip several > times..... Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] would entering Schwedenkreuz, jeesh, have any of you guys actually driven the nordschleife ? If a classic hit the armco there carrying the same speed as a tuned fat bmw cooper s you would loose your fuckin legs at least. PS - Learn to post properly [1] - Not including the Ringmini Van as that is *proper* quick. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ > >> you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to less > >> peripheral mass ! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Cheerz - Brownz > http://www.brownz.org/ Hi, Yhe roadholding and handling of a proper Mini would probably mean it would not go out of control anyway. K >>>> you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to >>>> less peripheral mass ! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > K Did you actually watch the video and see the cause of the crash ytc ? SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >>> you wouldn't get such a traumatic crash in the old mini, due to less >>> peripheral mass ! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > [1] - Not including the Ringmini Van as that is *proper* quick. yeah,... i'm saving up for a new mini... >> Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] would >> entering Schwedenkreuz, jeesh, have any of you guys actually driven the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> [1] - Not including the Ringmini Van as that is *proper* quick. > yeah,... i'm saving up for a new mini... brownz is right, an old mini would end up looking like this... http://www.bmh-ltd.co.uk/p63u.htm david crossan britain's premier sustainable industrialist. >>> Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] would >>> entering Schwedenkreuz, jeesh, have any of you guys actually driven the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > david crossan > britain's premier sustainable industrialist. So would ANY car if it didnt have a cage in, like the one in the video. Dont be such a c0ck david. RS >>>> Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] >>>> would entering Schwedenkreuz, jeesh, have any of you guys actually [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > RS oh, rs, i didn't realise, ..i'd better consult my daily horoscope... Well to be honest I have a large collection of Mini Video's and a few like "The Mini Cooper Video" does show a few real/original Mini's having the occasional off (didn't happen often of course) whilst hurtling along race circuits and apart from the cars being written off, the drivers were fine and you have to remember that the real Mini was a phenomenal success in all forms of Motorsport for years and years! Something the BINI can only dream about! Anyway a Mini Sport entered Rover Mini Cooper even won it's class on the 1997 Network Q Rally (formerly knows as the Lombard RAC Rally) and it was up against hordes of modern euroboxes too. Taffy Within 3 years the first off the line Mini's which were only 850's had won loads of events against faster cars, by the time the cooper came along the foundation had been made in just 5 years, where is the Bini's international motorsport success? > Well to be honest I have a large collection of Mini Video's and a few > like "The Mini Cooper Video" does show a few real/original Mini's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Taffy And dopey demonstrated his lack of knowledge yet again:- You are so cluless its unbeleivable. I didn't mention any two penny short banger hotrod circuits. I was talking about *the* bend on *the* track where *that* video was shot. The binis raced in the german cup are nothing like the wheezing restricted jcc cars you get in the UK. You comments about classic safety above are romantic, but untrue, unfounded and unresearched. One of the chaps I used to drink with in Drayton(Abingdon) was on the BMC rally team during its glory days with MG's and Mini's, a lot of his photo's and stories would disprove your blinkered ideas. A crash is a crash, no matter what you have it in. I like being regarded as clueless, only someone that truely didnt know what they were talking about would consider Palace and Hatch as a two bit banger circuit, you were talking about on corner on one track like it was your own exclusive universe, and i repeat my earlier unanswered question, where is the binis international success when as you say they compete in their own cup, cant they race against other cars or is that something that BMW has engineered to give the impression of model superiority? I never made comments about classis safety, i refered to the fact that a car smashed in the 60;s was better built and therefore would finish a race more than a plastic coated copy, my blinkered ideas are based on fact, my family worked at MG in Abingdon, so your second hand stories at a seedy bar in drayton are of no use to anyone, a crash is a crash, but far more funnier when it happens in a Bini And as for the wheezing restricted jcc cars, it looks like John Cooper Garages is closing down? Even Mike Coopers lost interest as I here his personal numberplate HIS FUN now adorns an Aston Martin instead of a BINI. With no outright Monte Carlo Rally Wins (or any!) to note, it looks like the BINI will be forgotten about in years to come. Taffy > And dopey demonstrated his lack of knowledge yet again:- > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a two bit banger circuit, you were talking about on corner on one > track like it was your own exclusive universe, and i repeat my Not my own universe, but relevent to the original post showing a video of a mini crashing at Schwedenkreuz leading into Aremberg. Compared to the nordschleife any uk short circuits are banger tracks. I know as I've raced most of the tracks from airfields like keevil, wraughton etc to the gp tracks like brands,donni & stone. > earlier unanswered question, where is the binis international success > when as you say they compete in their own cup, cant they race against Which has f.ck all to do with the original post. Any fuckin numpty knows that the bini has nowhere near the same competition prowess as the classic, imho there is no point to prove there, so I have no clue why you are bringing it up. > other cars or is that something that BMW has engineered to give the > impression of model superiority? I never made comments about classis > safety, i refered to the fact that a car smashed in the 60;s was Yes, of course, I think we can compare the euro ncap ratings can't we - not ! > better built and therefore would finish a race more than a plastic > coated copy, my blinkered ideas are based on fact, my family worked > at MG in Abingdon, so your second hand stories at a seedy bar in The seedy bar is far from seedy, the red lion in drayton, and if you knew f.ck all about mini's you would know who brian moylan was, and how well respected he is. > drayton are of no use to anyone, a crash is a crash, but far more > funnier when it happens in a Bini Crashes full stop are not funny, if you find any crash funny then youre a sick and twisted individual. You are another blinkered numpty and one of the reasons I only check this ng once in a while even though I run both a classic and a bini. I'd much rather seek advice from *friends* at my local mini club. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ Yes but i'm sure the N cap crash testing takes place on standard equipped cars and doesn't take into consideration comprehensive roll cages, sports seats and harnesses etc. Oh & I've heard of Brian Moylan, but to be honest I'm no fan of elitist MCR lovies myself. Anyway if you can't accept what's posted here, then go and seek advice from *friends* at your local Mini Club Instead and leave us alone. Taffy Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... Compared to the nordschleife any uk short circuits are banger tracks. I know as I've raced most of the tracks from airfields like keevil, wraughton etc to the gp tracks like brands,donni & stone. Or just driven around them in your over priced and over sized euro box? Im sure people like Jim Clarke and Sterling Moss will all agree with you that thier careers are based on driving on banger circuits - NOT Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... Which has f.ck all to do with the original post. Any fuckin numpty knows that the bini has nowhere near the same competition prowess as the classic, imho there is no point to prove there, so I have no clue why you are bringing it up. I didnt bring it up like you did in puke like fashion, you said that the classic Mini was restricted and wouldnt keep up with the Bini, you have just contradicted yourself in the routine pathetic manner you often do.... Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... Yes, of course, I think we can compare the euro ncap ratings can't we - not ! You sound as though the only way you acheive anything in an argument is putting words in other peoples mouths, what has Ncap got to do with the 1963 Monte Carlo Rally? Its fact that a Bini would die if you clipped a bollard on an alpine stage, die as in electronics would cut out, over sensitive enginneering designed to panda to pathetic polliticians, real Mini owners who are dedicated to their mark love the fact that the Mini has no NCap rating to write home about, we all take a measured risk when we drive, its part of the excitment of owning and driving one, how miserably boring and mundane a Bini is in comparison! Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... The seedy bar is far from seedy, the red lion in drayton, and if you knew f.ck all about mini's you would know who brian moylan was, and how well respected he is. I im sorry, of course you drank there in 1963 at the height of the BMC and MG works teams history, it was well known as a grimey place where all the engineers and road testers would go, so again facts well off there by miles. And why you bring up Brian Moylan when you didnt in your original blabberings I will never know, couldnt care less, my opinion of him is that he is so anal its a wonder he hasnt disappeared up is own arse, he was nothing but a junior mechanic, thought he was bigger than the rest and gave that impression to who ever he met, got up the nose of the management, quite often being knocked down a peg or two when he got too big for his boots. Same old story, and you call my blinkered! HA Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... Crashes full stop are not funny, if you find any crash funny then youre a sick and twisted individual. So if you think crashes are not funny, then why do you know so much about banger racing, from what you say you must have seen a lot of banger racing at silverstone, goodwood, castle combe... Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... You are another blinkered numpty and one of the reasons I only check this ng once in a while even though I run both a classic and a bini. Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... I'd much rather seek advice from *friends* at my local mini club. Im not blinkered, I know exactly what I say and do, I hate people that stand up for the Bini and make it something that it is not, taking away the heritage that belongs to the original, hate people that say they drink with sew n sew giving the impression that what ever they say gives it some authority, well it doesnt wash with me, id rather you just push off, this ng has always been ded icated to classic mini, so if you stick to your own little world instead of invading ours with your blinkered veiws from the motherland id be a lot more agreeable, stick to your cronies DAN the pub, you wont get any bini advice here anyway, apart from the correct guidance in the creation of a petrol bomb! > Mini2 Freak dribbled slightly, and after a pause girgled..... > id rather you just push off, this ng has always been ded icated to Already made that decision matey, I'll leave you and the three other c.nts who hang about on here on a regular basis well alone. All you do is knock the bini where the rest of the community is coming to terms with reality. Everything you spew is worthless sh.t promoting violence to bini owners and their cars. You are a sad worthless pimple on the outer ring of the arsehole of humanity. Oh, and don't bother replying as this ng is being struck off my list of watchers. I'm sure you'll have fun together patting each others egos on a job well done, where job well done = alienating your clique further and further from the civilised mini loving world. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ Oh dear I think you definitly touched a nerve there and someone has shown their true colours now haven't they? And that is a word I wouldn't use on an open Newsgroup against anyone myself, not even you know who and yet he's pretty much directed his nasty little venom against us all! So I believe it just goes to show the sort of mentality the elitist BINI owner has doesn't it? Oh well he's just proven what I thought about them all along then! Taffy I had already kill filed the person whom I think your commenting on Taffy, so I will not even give him the benefit of reading or replying to it.... > Oh dear I think you definitly touched a nerve there and someone has > shown their true colours now haven't they? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Taffy Yeah me too, but I was talking about Brownz directing his venom at us and it's good he's now gone and left us to concentrate on the BMW/BINI Appreciation Society. LOL Taffy I think they are a good car as cars go....hehehe > Yeah me too, but I was talking about Brownz directing his venom at us > and it's good he's now gone and left us to concentrate on the BMW/BINI > Appreciation Society. LOL > > Taffy I'd agree, if they were 1/3 less in price so competed with other 3 door hatchbacks, and didn't have the name MINI stuck on the back....I could live with Allegro though LOL If they must use a BMC name! >I think they are a good car as cars go....hehehe > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Taffy Just got back from vacation, and its nice to know that you girls don't need me, to continue your bickering. You "old" mini owners are a sad group. Vacation...read Just escaped from the Asylum again.... theres no bickering, just a personal statement of fact. > Just got back from vacation, and its nice to know that you girls > don't need me, to continue your bickering. You "old" mini owners are a sad > group. > Vacation...read Just escaped from the Asylum again.... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>don't need me, to continue your bickering. You "old" mini owners are a sad >>group. No dumb f.ck....its called bickering. Opposite opinions and arguments! Sort of like bitches in heat! cool another escape for the block list. only bithces like you and mad max biker. The rest of simply state a fact from "our" view point. >> Vacation...read Just escaped from the Asylum again.... >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No dumb f.ck....its called bickering. Opposite opinions and arguments! > Sort of like bitches in heat! > cool another escape for the block list. > > only bithces like you and mad max biker. > > The rest of simply state a fact from "our" view point. From my point of view, you are an idiot that makes no sense at all. Your brain and car share something....they are both small. Well I could be wrong, but I thought Pedro was on our side? Taffy > Well I could be wrong, but I thought Pedro was on our side? > > Taffy you are right there Taff,,,,, he is on our side........... he's been cloned by you know who,, Fitzy >>Well I could be wrong, but I thought Pedro was on our side? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > he's been cloned by you know who,, > Fitzy Why don't you both just kiss my a.s! I have not been cloned...Mad Max is my god. Oh cloned by you know who eh? Well that reminds me of Harry Potter and the retarded "You Know Who" whose name is never spoken! Not that i'm much of a Harry Potter fan, but from what i'm told old "You Know Who" is another unwanted and disliked tosser that has major issues too! Taffy > Oh cloned by you know who eh? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Taffy What did I just say? I have no clue....it makes no sense at all. I must stop drinking so much alcohol. Taffy Some dopey twonk said:- Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] would > entering Schwedenkreuz, jeesh, have any of you guys actually driven the > nordschleife ? If a classic hit the armco there carrying the same speed as > a tuned fat bmw cooper s you would loose your fuckin legs at least. Speaking out of your exhaust pipe!, a Mini WILL be carrying as much speed as a Bini, most of the current racing Bini's are restricted in state of tune and carry more weight, its been proven a Mini is faster than a Bini by several seconds in OVERALL ability. I have never heard of a Mini driver racing in Motor cross or touring car at events such as Crystal palace or Brands hatch ever loosing thier legs in a Mini smash, the cars are always written off but the drivers and co-drivers are not. Ive seen Mini's virtually crushed in rally accidents and they carry on, a Bini in similiar circumstances would end up like a crab with its wheels stuck in the air!!! Before commenting on the ability of a Classic Mini, make sure you have your facts right before opening your cake 'ole Yes on one video from the 1960 Monte Carlo Rally (first time the Mini ever entered and before the Cooper was conceived), Alec Pitt's Mini got hit by a truck and ended up with a cone shaped roof, plus it's exhaust fell off, but it still finished the rally all the same! Taffy I saw that, a modern Bini would have its airbag deployed and would need a notebook and din lead to reset the fuel pump relay to get the thing started, not many of them in the Alps on a dirt track.... > Yes on one video from the 1960 Monte Carlo Rally (first time the Mini > ever entered and before the Cooper was conceived), Alec Pitt's Mini got > hit by a truck and ended up with a cone shaped roof, plus it's exhaust > fell off, but it still finished the rally all the same! > > Taffy > Some dopey twonk said:- > Thats because they're not carrying as much speed as a new mini [1] [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Before commenting on the ability of a Classic Mini, make sure you > have your facts right before opening your cake 'ole You are so cluless its unbeleivable. I didn't mention any two penny short banger hotrod circuits. I was talking about *the* bend on *the* track where *that* video was shot. The binis raced in the german cup are nothing like the wheezing restricted jcc cars you get in the UK. You comments about classic safety above are romantic, but untrue, unfounded and unresearched. One of the chaps I used to drink with in Drayton(Abingdon) was on the BMC rally team during its glory days with MG's and Mini's, a lot of his photo's and stories would disprove your blinkered ideas. A crash is a crash, no matter what you have it in. SignatureCheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ |
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